“Next Gen” Mustang Will be Electric (EV) Only Claims Autoline

[TheGame1190]

one thing on the mind, maybe not everyone but unless your house has one an electric/plug in is going to have to be installed. might want to look at that before going off to buy an EV anytime in the future.... something to add in on the cost of owning one plus now the electricity bill is gonna jump up along with it.

There are people on this forum who dont have electricity
I guess that's one way to lower your electric bill.

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[K4fxd]

Yea, this ain't gonna work. The Tesla home charger is huge. My buddy has a model S and needed electricians to install the charger in his garage. It is almost as big as a water heater.

 

[Bit_the_Bullitt]

Get your IC 5.0 now before it's too late.......

Related: Never use quiet mode, it's bad manners to do such a thing to the pony emblem.

In the early mornings, if your car has it, having quiet mode on is just being a good neighbor. I set it to quiet in the mornings on the country roads, but on the same roads in the afternoon I'm ripping it in track. ;)

one thing on the mind, maybe not everyone but unless your house has one an electric/plug in is going to have to be installed. might want to look at that before going off to buy an EV anytime in the future.... something to add in on the cost of owning one plus now the electricity bill is gonna jump up along with it.

Yeah, you need at least 240V plug, which I'm thinking is what you meant by this. You can't just run an EV charging on a 15A circuit, unless you want it to always trip or take 15hrs to charge.

That's pretty funny. I'm sure he meant an actual 230-240V plug, because charging an EV on a 110V and through an extension cord on top of that, good luck charging in less than overnight. Which for most people is fine, but I'd say the grid is far from being able to handle that (lot of people at once plugging their cars in around 5:30pm after rush hour traffic).

 

[Mikthehun1]

Yeah, you need at least 240V plug, which I'm thinking is what you meant by this. You can't just run an EV charging on a 15A circuit, unless you want it to always trip or take 15hrs to charge.



That's pretty funny. I'm sure he meant an actual 230-240V plug, because charging an EV on a 110V and through an extension cord on top of that, good luck charging in less than overnight. Which for most people is fine, but I'd say the grid is far from being able to handle that (lot of people at once plugging their cars in around 5:30pm after rush hour traffic).

Realistically, a standard 220/240 outlet doesn't cost that much to setup, especially something barebones right off the box.

Also, before I went remote, there was no way I was home in 30 minutes on Long Island . You're totally right about the grid though. We are totally going to see rolling brownouts whenever people do start charging their cars en masse.

 

[Bit_the_Bullitt]

Realistically, a standard 220/240 outlet doesn't cost that much to setup, especially something barebones right off the box.

Also, before I went remote, there was no way I was home in 30 minutes on Long Island . You're totally right about the grid though. We are not going to see rolling brownouts whenever people do start charging their cars en masse.

You mean we "are" probably going to start seeing brownouts... I think we are, eventually until we surpass that line of having enough backup in the grid.

Yeah, I know overall itself isn't super hard to set up, but if you don't have it, it's a few hundred dollars to set up a dedicated circuit from your panel to the garage, especially if it's a finished one, yada yada. Sure, a few hundo for someone that bought an expensive EV isn't a big deal, I'm just saying a standard plug won't do.

That's what I like about SW Ohio, my commute went up from 10min to 25min once we moved out to the country, but I also get to vroom outside of city limits...

 

[Mikthehun1]

You mean we "are" probably going to start seeing brownouts... I think we are, eventually until we surpass that line of having enough backup in the grid.

Yeah, I know overall itself isn't super hard to set up, but if you don't have it, it's a few hundred dollars to set up a dedicated circuit from your panel to the garage, especially if it's a finished one, yada yada. Sure, a few hundo for someone that bought an expensive EV isn't a big deal, I'm just saying a standard plug won't do.

That's what I like about SW Ohio, my commute went up from 10min to 25min once we moved out to the country, but I also get to vroom outside of city limits...

Oops, not sure how that 'not' got in there. Maybe the EV Illuminati snuck it in!

 

[DagNabIt]

Infrastructure needs to be built across the US before any EVs can go mainstream. Also, EVs are going to have to have FAST recharge capability. Nobody wants to take a trip cross-country and have to pull into the electric station to wait while their EV recharges.

 

[Bit_the_Bullitt]

Infrastructure needs to be built across the US before any EVs can go mainstream. Also, EVs are going to have to have FAST recharge capability. Nobody wants to take a trip cross-country and have to pull into the electric station to wait while their EV recharges.

Yeah, that's kind of what we were talking about overall, needs to become easier to charge, faster, grid needs to be able to handle that (whether charging at home or on a trip), cars must be affordable (like same price as ICE), more eco friendly to make them and recycle them.
Without all of these managed it's hardly going to happen on a large scale.

 

[WaltA]

I am not sure if this is bad news. True, a radical change that home garage ICE tinkerers will certainly not like.

I remember the first time I drove my friend's Tesla. Around the neighborhood, it was like driving my old hybrid. I then decided to take it out on the highway. On the entrance ramp, I could see a semi coming up, and I wanted to merge in front of the semi. So, I stumped the "gas" pedal down into the carpeting. I was already doing 70mph, and this was the first time at such a speed, I experienced "snap your head back" additional acceleration, as the front end popped up, and the Tesla leaped forward, like a jet fighter from a carrier deck.

If Ford could do even better (hay, they will have a decade of improvements possible), I would not be disappointed.

 

[Bikeman315]

No sense starting a new thread so I'll drop this here. Love the comments.

Will EVs Spell the Death of Manual Transmissions?

https://www.autoweek.com/car-life/c... -- High Minus Dormant and 90 Day Non Openers

 

[Bit_the_Bullitt]

No sense starting a new thread so I'll drop this here. Love the comments.

Will EVs Spell the Death of Manual Transmissions?

https://www.autoweek.com/car-life/classic-cars/a35268933/will-evs-spell-the-death-of-manual-transmissions/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_aut&utm_medium=email&date=012521&utm_campaign=nl22751186&utm_term=AAA -- High Minus Dormant and 90 Day Non Openers

I'm from Czech and have lived in the US for almost 10yrs now between school and work. In Europe, vast majority of cars (aside from most German vehicles) are manuals, including vans and smaller trucks. To me, that's what I learned to drive on and love, also as a car enthusiast, I've never owned anything but manuals.

In the US I've had a 98 Escort, 08 Cobalt, then '18 Accord Sport and now my Bullitt. All manuals. It's slim pickings, and I totally understand autos and why people have them/like them, but to me they're just boring and unenjoyable to drive.

I totally get fast lap times or whatever and "no human can shift as quick as auto." To me, that's not what driving is about. Even back home when I had rented a 9-people passenger Transit in diesel, somehow it was enjoyable to drive, rowing my gears was something to do - it would be endlessly boring to have an auto transmission.

When I'm ready for a next car, if I have the choice, it'll be manual. If it can't be from the US, I'll try to import. I very reluctantly will buy a new car in auto. But, I'll always take auto over any CVT. And with electrification becoming probably the future mass thing, I'm scared my choices will be nearly non-existent (besides unaffordable sports cars).

 

[okfoz]

I have suspected for years that the S650 will be more of a mid production refresh than a complete redesign. The 2023 mustang will be kind of like the difference between a Fox Mustang and the SN95, where the SN95 was "new", but it was basically still a Fox mustang, I believe they called it Fox-4.
The real next big generation Mustang change like what we saw with S197 to S550 I believe will be 2028.

 

[Fly2High]

I wonder if the Mustang will survive the electrification of cars?

It sounds to me that all cars and SUV/trucks will be built even more so on common platforms. This sounds like the old TCR and Aurora slot car where you can swap bodies but the drivetrain and wheels remained together.

Let's just say that Ford makes 1-3 platforms. Why would someone choose a small body with a smaller trunk, unusable back seat with a sloped roofline instead of getting the exact same platform (electric motors, suspension, battery capacity, etc.) with a more utilitarian body on it.

Already we are seeing SUVs and trucks achieving the speeds that a Mustang can. Some, can even be made to drive on the track quite well. Drove a Cheyenne at Monticello and was able to do some fast speeds and took corners far faster than I could imagine an SUV doing.

People are already dropping sedans and coupes in favor of huge SUVs so they can cart a large volume of air and themselves around.

Electric will make everything fast and maybe too fast to the point the government will regulate a maximum performance metrics. When that happens, there will really be no need for a Mustang.

Would you continue to buy a mid or small car when a large car can do all the smaller can? After all, how much weight is in varying body styles when the platform remains the same? Sure, maybe 200-400 lbs but how much will that matter when the lightest car will be over 5000 lbs? It will not make a huge difference.

Now, it could be cool if they made the car modular where you can pop bodies off and swap them easily. Drive what you like. Upgrade it when new bodies come out. Maybe the aftermarket will make complete bodies ready for install. Imagine a lift in the garage that places the body on your platform automatically. OK, a little overboard but you get the idea.

Besides, all the go fast crowd will have left anyway in search of whatever is the fastest that year. They will succumb to whatever meets their daily needs and the Mustang body style and fun will be a memory.

I pray this does not come to pass. Unfortunately, what will stop it?

 

[hws52]

The article I read direct from Ford stated that in/by a Mustang EV would be available, it didnt say anything about replacement.

 

[Mustang_Lou]

I can't wait until 30 years from now when I've got my Bullitt at a car show and the dad's bring their kids over to hear what a muscle car sounded like "back in the day".

Prediction right now: These types of cars (V8, manual, awesome exhaust) will be collector cars one day when we're all in autonomous electric vehicles and people yearn for the tactile & aural enjoyment that comes with them.

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