"Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

[Radiant]

If they offer something that looks like that, in a V8 with a performance package, that will be a huge hit. Probably be somewhat pricey but no doubt a hit.

Absolutely. That said, the hybrid and ecoboost models will be the real volume drivers. We only have to look at the Ford Maverick to see a market segment different from the one that buys the F-150. The 4-door Mustang will be in the same position, it's not going to cannibalize sales from the 2-door Mustang, it just opens up a whole new segment of buyer.

I suspect the performance variants will be expensive, but if they can hit a ~$40k MSRP for the eco / hybrid - powered sedan, they've got a great offering for the general buyer.

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[Cobra99]

The Mustang has always been a 2-door coupe. Anything else isn't a mustang.

'M-Series' or 'AMG' or 'Raptor' is a performance level and can be applied to different models. You could have a Raptor Mustang but its not practical but still needs to be a 2 door.

Power and transmission options don't define a Mustang as they are many different engines tramsmissions etc. The similarities are the 2-door coupe.

The Mach-E is a nice EV SUV but not a Mustang. So if you make a boat look like a Mustang and have the same performance then its a Mustang. Why not slap some taillights on a plane and some stripes and call that a Mustang. If Mustang needs to evolve into something other that what it been like for 60 years then let it die.

 

[9secondko]

Ford has this a while back. It was called the mercury marauder.

it wasn’t a hit then and won’t be now.
No reason to taint the mustang name by slapping it on a new marauder.

 

[fpvfan1]

It'd be nice if this 4-door car had a 350hp 2.3L Ecoboost option, a 415hp 3.0L Ecoboost option and a 450hp 3.5L Ecoboost option with Dark Horse packages on all three trim levels. I'd honestly prefer to have them that way than another 5.0L V8. I'd even be cool with a 3.5L Ecoboost package that packed the 660hp/550tq from the GT supercar with an AWD system and DCT transmission and even a 490hp/630tq variant of the 3.0L Ecoboost hybrid setup with AWD and some GT500 or Dark Horse suspension upgrades. I'd actually prefer these to anything with a 5.0L V8 under the hood

 

[Stonehauler]

Ford has this a while back. It was called the mercury marauder.

it wasn’t a hit then and won’t be now.
No reason to taint the mustang name by slapping it on a new marauder.

ummm, no. The Mercury Marauder was a freaking boat. It was a full sized vehicle, at 212 inches long, it was about 10 inches or so longer than the last Ford Taurus and the handling wasn't that great. It had the live axle of the Mercury Grand Marquis/Crown Vic as opposed to the Independent suspension of the 89-97 T-bird.

As someone who drove a 72 Thunderbird as my first car and an 81 Buick LeSabre (diesel), the Marauder wasn't a huge step up.

It wasn't a hit because Ford didn't do the car justice.

 

[MaddNomad]

ummm, no. The Mercury Marauder was a freaking boat. It was a full sized vehicle, at 212 inches long, it was about 10 inches or so longer than the last Ford Taurus and the handling wasn't that great. It had the live axle of the Mercury Grand Marquis/Crown Vic as opposed to the Independent suspension of the 89-97 T-bird.

As someone who drove a 72 Thunderbird as my first car and an 81 Buick LeSabre (diesel), the Marauder wasn't a huge step up.

It wasn't a hit because Ford didn't do the car justice.

Granted a 4 door Stang will be pretty heavy too, it’s already getting up there in weight as a 2 door. That’s what Alex from Lund racing was talking about.

 

[papaD]

I heard rumors that they were bringing back the Thunderbird name. Supposed to be a 4 door.

maybe this is it?

 

[DeluxeStang]

the thread was over after the video Madnomad had posted. It was pretty definitive.

The mustang is what it is. A performant two door sports coupe. It’s not a 4 door whatever or a truck or anything else.

let the icon be an icon. Not diluted into a bunch of cruft just to try to sell the cruft. It’s not working anyway.

focus instead on making the mustang compelling and the impossibly best attainable sports car in the industry. Faster, with better handling, better looks, better reliability, lighter, shrink it down where you can and let it be the “poster car” it’s supposed to be.

Looks like we'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[DeluxeStang]

I heard rumors that they were bringing back the Thunderbird name. Supposed to be a 4 door.

maybe this is it?

The thunderbird name was gonna be for Ford's explorer three row suv EV. But the design was apparently very radical, and so it was canceled.

 

[9secondko]

I heard rumors that they were bringing back the Thunderbird name. Supposed to be a 4 door.

maybe this is it?

that would be fine. We have had various thunderbirds over the years with various reasons for being.

no need to dump on the mustang name, which has had a continuous, cohesive run since inception as a two door sports coupe.

 

[9secondko]

It'd be nice if this 4-door car had a 350hp 2.3L Ecoboost option, a 415hp 3.0L Ecoboost option and a 450hp 3.5L Ecoboost option with Dark Horse packages on all three trim levels. I'd honestly prefer to have them that way than another 5.0L V8. I'd even be cool with a 3.5L Ecoboost package that packed the 660hp/550tq from the GT supercar with an AWD system and DCT transmission and even a 490hp/630tq variant of the 3.0L Ecoboost hybrid setup with AWD and some GT500 or Dark Horse suspension upgrades. I'd actually prefer these to anything with a 5.0L V8 under the hood

a performance trim has always meant a higher output engine in the mustang - usually one specific engine. The svo had a Neanderthal ecoboost, the GT had the 5.0, the ‘03 cobra had the supercharged 4.6, the gt350 had the Voodoo, the GT500 had the 5.2 Predator, etc. the dark horse is a mustang tier and nothing else.

saddling a mustang with four doors is confusing enough. Then going and offering a series of lower power engines and calling them each the same tier of model is never going to work. Adding turbos to the actual dark horse v8 would blow away those v6 turbo power numbers, so that would be a better bet.

 

[9secondko]

Ford would do well to develop an ecoboost v8 for the mustang, allowing the economies of scale to cut the costs, and deliver GTs that are world class performers, only needing to launch Shelby’s cobras, etc. when they have something wildly special.

better economy, way more power across the board. And they can keep the 4 banger for entry level. The GT can do the heavy lifting of the space it usually does up to the Shelby gt350/500 level with various performance packs unlocking more power. Then let the Cobra tier be punching up there with the zr1.

 

[DeluxeStang]

that would be fine. We have had various thunderbirds over the years with various reasons for being.

no need to dump on the mustang name, which has had a continuous, cohesive run since inception as a two door sports coupe.

I'm so confused by your logic right now. The entire basis for your argument against a mustang sedan was because the mustang started life as a 2 door sports car, and has been a 2 door sports coupe throughout the decades, that a sedan wouldn't fit the name. But the thunderbird, which started life as a 2 door coupe, and was a 2 door coupe throughout multiple generations, you're fine with doing a sedan version of that?

If that's ok with you, then the entire argument about you be against a two door nameplate being put on a four door doesn't really hold water. No, I'm just gonna let it go, I'm not gonna get back into this back and forth, I said I wouldn't, just let it go.

 

[MaddNomad]

that would be fine. We have had various thunderbirds over the years with various reasons for being.

no need to dump on the mustang name, which has had a continuous, cohesive run since inception as a two door sports coupe.

I say Falcon, do a little diving Falcon logo sculpted like the running horse. (Old logo was a little too old school…)

 

[9secondko]

I say Falcon, do a little diving Falcon logo sculpted like the running horse.

hey why not?
Great solution. Ford already had a four door falcon in Australia.

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