Poverty Button Replacement

[Interstellar]

When people are shopping for S650 Mustangs over the coming years, the "poverty button" cars will be the most sought after
-signed Vapor Blue poverty Stang

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[roket]

Am I wrong to interpret this as meaning the blank button can send a signal even though it's unmarked? Are you able to see if there are multiple versions of the button box or if the only difference is the button label printing?

i dont know for 100% sure, but it sure seems that way

 

[Zig]

When people are shopping for S650 Mustangs over the coming years, the "poverty button" cars will be the most sought after
-signed Vapor Blue poverty Stang

When always stay started is no longer optional.

 

[jboogie1289]

Ok, I gurss I am in the .1% here but I do not spend a TON of time looking at that Panel period. I touch it once and that’s to select the similar GTR style gauge cluster. Outside of that, that panel is RARELY even glanced at. Unless I’m using Apple CarPlay where notifications override the screen, then that‘s when I have to touch the panel again. Maybe it’s me but I don’t get or have the “I need to put something there effect”.

 

[GhastlyTT]

Ok, I gurss I am in the .1% here but I do not spend a TON of time looking at that Panel period. I touch it once and that’s to select the similar GTR style gauge cluster. Outside of that, that panel is RARELY even glanced at. Unless I’m using Apple CarPlay where notifications override the screen, then that‘s when I have to touch the panel again. Maybe it’s me but I don’t get or have the “I need to put something there effect”.

My interest is more towards re-activating functionality using what's already in place. If the button is functional, as the wiring suggests, but ignored on cars that don't have ASS (lol) labeled, then the potential to have a 2nd favorite button in the future could be possible. For instance, using the blank button for silent exhaust and the favorite button for quick aux gauges would be sweet!

 

[jboogie1289]

My interest is more towards re-activating functionality using what's already in place. If the button is functional, as the wiring suggests, but ignored on cars that don't have ASS (lol) labeled, then the potential to have a 2nd favorite button in the future could be possible. For instance, using the blank button for silent exhaust and the favorite button for quick aux gauges would be sweet!

Well, now that it‘s put in to that context, it does make sense but the way that I’m reading some of these seems like people have been cheated out of something. Had you not provided the info on the wiring system, this may not have had any validity, imo, but as I always end my inputs ……

To each their own.

Hope that some resolution can come about from Ford, or some sort of workaround, so that people will have functionality to that button space.

 

[roadpilot]

My GT manual has it. Strange that the Dark Horse does not.

Because the DH is a track-oriented vehicle, I would surmise.

 

[roadpilot]

My interest is more towards re-activating functionality using what's already in place. If the button is functional, as the wiring suggests, but ignored on cars that don't have ASS (lol) labeled, then the potential to have a 2nd favorite button in the future could be possible. For instance, using the blank button for silent exhaust and the favorite button for quick aux gauges would be sweet!

Odd are pretty good that the switches are not going to be standard SPST or similar type of switch that is ON in one position and OFF in the other. Most likely, they are just momentarily contact switches. Meaning, the only time it completes the circuit is when you are pressing the button, and as soon as you let it go, the circuit is no longer complete.

So unless the device you're wanting to control is only looking for a momentary contact switch to signal that you want to toggle the device (if it's off, turn it on or if it's on, turn it off), this isn't going to work for you.

 

[Timry2]

If it’s momentary you could wire in a relay and latch itto keep the circuit energized

 

[roadpilot]

If it’s momentary you could wire in a relay and latch itto keep the circuit energized

That's what I said in another thread on this same topic -- it would have to be an impulse relay (a type of latch relay) because that button does not keep the power on all the time. It just sends a signal each time you press it.

 

[Zig]

That's what I said in another thread on this same topic -- it would have to be an impulse relay (a type of latch relay) because that button does not keep the power on all the time. It just sends a signal each time you press it.

Does the indicator light illuminate?

 

[roadpilot]

Does the indicator light illuminate?

My DH doesn't have AS/S.

 

[Zig]

My DH doesn't have AS/S.

Those that do get a little ‘off’ light for when the activation state is changed. Could one ‘tap’ that feed when attempting to customize / add an external modification function.

 

[roadpilot]

Those that do get a little ‘off’ light for when the activation state is changed. Could one ‘tap’ that feed when attempting to customize / add an external modification function.

Sorry, I don't understand ... is there a question in there somewhere? LOL.

Your typical LED will normally consume between 10 and 30 milliAmps (that's 10 to 30 thousanths of an amp) -- hardly enough to do much more than signal a latch or impulse relay, and certainly not power anything constantly.

 

[Zig]

Sorry, I don't understand ... is there a question in there somewhere? LOL.

Your typical LED will normally consume between 10 and 30 milliAmps (that's 10 to 30 thousanths of an amp) -- hardly enough to do much more than signal a latch or impulse relay, and certainly not power anything constantly.

Granted assume permits an awful lot but chances are anything that would be controlled by that ‘switch/toggle’ will be an on/off type not a hold for action like the convertible top button. The on/off would most likely trigger an externally powered modification, chances are the addition/modification won’t be powered by the switch just activated/deactivated by it. Since the switch has an indicator light could one simply check for that current when attempting to control the ‘addition’. Instead of tracing and hacking the computer to reassign a function could one just use the light to determine if the switch has been toggled?

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