Mustang Chief Engineer Confirms Locked ECU, making S650 tune more difficult

[AvalancheSVT]

Yes, I remember very well why we're still here dancing. Your statement "bullshit laws get ignored or loopholed" doesn't in any way mean that laws generally don't prevent people from taking certain actions. And my concession doesn't imply that only people stop people. No way. The idea of going to prison for undertaking X crime should be enough (and often is enough) to ward people off from undertaking said crime. That's not people stopping people, that's the mere thought of severe repercussions stopping people - one of the intended effects of X law outlawing X crime. So again, yes, laws stop shit from happening.

Do you like living in your home? If so, you better pay those property taxes. I'm sure Texas has laws in place allowing the state/town to place a lien on your home if you don't pay your property taxes. That's not a bullshit law you should ignore, nor is it people forcing you to pay property taxes. To my point, has anyone come to your home demanding you pay property taxes? Probably not. But I'm betting you still pay your property taxes, don't you? Why is that? Probably because the thought of a lien being placed on your home doesn't sit well with you. That's the very thought of repercussions forcing you to follow the law.

So once again, laws prevent people from doing whatever they want with their home, car, you name it. In theory, one should be able to do as she pleases with their home, car, etc - but in reality there are several laws in place (which varies by state of course) that restrict what you can do with your property. And in most situations with most people, the law simply being on the books is enough to prevent X activity.

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[because_murica]

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I think that's for you dude, but ok.

 

[AvalancheSVT]

I think that's for you dude, but ok.

sick burn, dude. imma get some aloe for that one.

 

[because_murica]

sick burn, dude. imma get some aloe for that one.

I wasn't trying to burn you, but ok. Forget the aloe dude - get a hat. That Texas heat has clearly been putting the screws to the ole' noggin.

 

[AvalancheSVT]

I wasn't trying to burn you, but ok. Forget the aloe dude - get a hat. That Texas heat has clearly been putting the screws to the ole' noggin.

cool story bro.

 

[because_murica]

cool story bro.

 

[9secondko]

It’s the Mustang. The single most modded car in the world. ECU will be cracked much faster than any locked computer before it.

my prediction is mods ready to go -including b

My prediction- Any modification involving tuning of the engine outside of factory will be outlawed. Not Ford’s fault. Done.

Maybe. Depends on the state. Not everywhere is as idiotic and greedy for control as California.

 

[Skye]

Can the contents of this thread be merged with the other, the one with the poll?

 

[4V Mayhem]

Not entirely true, for instance, turned down the Jeep truck for 1 reason. That stupid shutdown at every frigging stop.

Ended up being a good thing, got this ass-kicking GT.

I don’t know the figures of the numbers that won’t buy. Haven’t done a survey.
Perhaps we should start a thread with who won’t buy.

I definitely will not buy a locked ecu car that monitors me.

There will be other options . Good ones too.
It won’t have to be a Camry.

And what other car will you buy instead? The EV Charger/Challenger? I'm assuming you're against EVs. The extinct (for 2024) Camaro? A $90,000 C8? A Stinger GT? What options do you have?

You do realize tho that ALL future cars will have locked ECUs right?

 

[4V Mayhem]

How many threads do we need on this?

 

[IPOGT]

It’s the Mustang. It WAS the single most modded car in the world before the federal government made it illegal to unlock the ECU and alter emissions. Hard to push so hard for EV and not see this happening.

 

[Bikeman315]

How many threads do we need on this?

OP didn’t realize that he could have edited his original post to add the poll. So now we have two threads from him. The mods will need to combine.

 

[shogun32]

The point is that GM tuned the LT1 to the point that an aftermarket tune is almost not even worthwhile or at the very least isn't worth enought o merit voiding the warranty

Ok, I was engaging in a little bit of hyperbole, but trust me, the difference between GM and Unleashed tunes was GLORIOUS and worth every penny. "void my warranty" humbug... I'd do it again in a heartbeat. I had the aftermarket tune on my brand new '19 SS/1LE within 4 months of ownership and next time it'll be on there within 2 weeks. If GM makes it impossible to tune, then I will gladly either leave cars entirely or buy used.

 

[zstanny]

I really don't know why this is even discussed. This entire topic just clickbait like a fox news or cnn headline.

If you want to tune/heavily mod, you're probably not looking at a new MY car. Unless you're a youtuber chasing views.

 

[Bikeman315]

It’s the Mustang. It WAS the single most modded car in the world before the federal government made it illegal to unlock the ECU and alter emissions. Hard to push so hard for EV and not see this happening.

Technically it is not illegal to unlock the ECU. Now if the parameters of the ECU are changed and emissions levels are increased above EPA limits, not that’s illegal.

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