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A base 1LT C8 is WAY nicer than a base 300a pkg Mustang.

I’ll take that under consideration. Thank you my good man.

Sorry social credit points don’t mean much to me I just call ‘em as I see ‘em.

Uh huh

You spew the same lies every Boomer does. You all claim you don’t want light options, want knobs, no extra computer wizardry, don’t need this or don’t need that but what do you have?- A 401A Premium with, PP, NP,AVE, and MAGNARIDE. Everyone of these guys talks like this and what do they have in...

Jochen Zeitz the CEO that is destroying Harley Davidson. He came from Puma.

They still lost 5 billion on EV’s. They are expected to net 1.6 billion for 24 screwing the ICE customers and counting Ford Credit profits.

From what you know now and what you have seen you make your own judgment call. Doesn’t seem much different than sneaker boy to me.

You can play a shell game any way you’d like. The fact of the matter is Ford is losing about 5 billion a year on their EV side. Depending on model it equates to 30-50k for each one sold. 2 weeks ago I replaced my wife’s totaled Wrangler with a 2024 Edge I got $7,250 off of Z-plan or a total of...

Plus it is a fact that Ford has been jacking up ICE prices to make up for their 5 billion a year EV loss. I always said if you hate Ford (or any manufacturer) just buy one of their EV‘s and they will lose 30-50k depending on model.

It was truly “you eat what you kill”. Make as much as you can, invest, and try to make the best life decisions. NOBODY gives you a thing in the car business.

I paid under 152k for both. MSRP on the cat was 86xxxk I paid 80xxxk brand new and MSRP on the C8 was 77335 I paid 71xxx brand new. There was 0 tax on the cat I traded my GT500 and my 1320 on it and I had 2 trades for 26k so I only paid tax on 46k for the C8.

That and the business model. Advertising to people who are not your core customer. Finding out the company donates to projects you are totally against. Insanely jacking up prices for the same old product and not giving you anything for your money. Yeah HD was down in 2024 with a couple of new...

Oh I don’t know. I started in the car business when I was 26 and I retired at 45 after 20 years in the car business- 17 of those 20 years were VERY lucrative. I have been retired now for 7 years.

This a very astute comment. You do realize Jim Farley is on Harley Davidsons board of directors right?

I must be one of the “poors”. As a former GT500 owner and current 2023 Hellcat and 2024 C8 owner the reason I haven’t bought a 2024 GT or DH is because of the price for a reskinned S550 and performance for the money- and I buy all my Fords/Lincolns at Z-plan. Maybe I will buy an S650 something...

No NA based Coyote Mustang should cost over 60k period.

What article didn’t tell you if you took out the Government and fleet sales of the Mache it would have shown about 10 retail sales.

Dude my old lady 3 mos ago bought a brand new 24 Rubicon for 53k with 65k MSRP- 12k off. So what is trade 40-45K? If you think Jeep is the answer to your financial blunders you are solely mistaken.

No way I’d keep some wrecked heap. I would dump it on something else the minute it comes out of the body shop and I mean that day.