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Sorry, not into youtoobists.
The question is:
Is the world going to be ready to support an over run of EV vehicles needing power from the grids based on individual Country, Province, State or County levels?

Hell, we just saw that TX couldn’t even get through some snow and ice; couple their grid with an influx of EVs, what then.... LOL
I'm concerned that EV infrastructure rollout will have the same problem as broadband internet. Rural/sparsely populated/low-income areas will be left under-served for years. At the same time regulators will constantly redefine the line of "success".
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Sorry, not into youtoobists.

I'm concerned that EV infrastructure rollout will have the same problem as broadband internet. Rural/sparsely populated/low-income areas will be left under-served for years. At the same time regulators will constantly redefine the line of "success".
I feel partially to blame. I made it easier for them by telling them they could attach a short stick to the victims' heads rather than keep buying longer sticks to tie the carrots to.
 

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I feel partially to blame. I made it easier for them by telling them they could attach a short stick to the victims' heads rather than keep buying longer sticks to tie the carrots to.
Did the short stick save the legislators $1.37 over the expensive vegetable-based system? I think we should form an oversight committee to discuss.
 

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Sorry, not into youtoobists.

I'm concerned that EV infrastructure rollout will have the same problem as broadband internet. Rural/sparsely populated/low-income areas will be left under-served for years. At the same time regulators will constantly redefine the line of "success".
I live in "rural" OH and my access to internet is still pretty bad. When I lived just south of Dayton, I had 100Mbps and could've gone to I think 400 or a gig.
Now that I live just outside of town (wife wanted more land), about 10min from the closest bigger town, I am on DSL and getting barely 18Mbps. That's in 2021.
I had Spectrum come out to do a survey if they can run their cable (mind you, there's other houses that would benefit obviously). They're like "NAH we ain't running one."

The way areas can be considered as having adequate internet coverage and actual ability of connections/speeds for individual households are very different.

So yeah, I think you've got a point about rural areas. I'm hardly true rural, i.e. Dayton is 20min away, Cincy 50min, Columbus about 1hr, yet internet is laughable.
 

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I live in "rural" OH and my access to internet is still pretty bad. When I lived just south of Dayton, I had 100Mbps and could've gone to I think 400 or a gig.
Now that I live just outside of town (wife wanted more land), about 10min from the closest bigger town, I am on DSL and getting barely 18Mbps. That's in 2021.
I had Spectrum come out to do a survey if they can run their cable (mind you, there's other houses that would benefit obviously). They're like "NAH we ain't running one."

The way areas can be considered as having adequate internet coverage and actual ability of connections/speeds for individual households are very different.

So yeah, I think you've got a point about rural areas. I'm hardly true rural, i.e. Dayton is 20min away, Cincy 50min, Columbus about 1hr, yet internet is laughable.
Man that really sucks. Hard to believe in 2021. I feel bad for the kids in your area that are doing distance learning.
 


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Man that really sucks. Hard to believe in 2021. I feel bad for the kids in your area that are doing distance learning.
Yeah, I can't imagine. Granted, I can still work from home, Zoom runs fine, even via VPN to connect to our work servers works fine. We can stream okay.
But that's just the wife and I. Even with multiple devices, truly only 2-6 are used at once (laptop and phone each, thermostat, some smart speakers) etc. Can't imagine having more people try to work while some stream. My download speed is okay, but I can forget (for now) about security cams that need at least 1+Mbps upload, which I don't have.

Even looking into getting modems to connect to the ever-so-heavily-advertised 5G is impossible. Nobody offers them for true home internet, nobody sells SIM cards with truly unlimited data and don't let me start with satellite. If I were an online gamer, I'd be upset. For now we get by. Maybe like 2050 I reach 50Mbps?
 

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I live in "rural" OH and my access to internet is still pretty bad. When I lived just south of Dayton, I had 100Mbps and could've gone to I think 400 or a gig.
Now that I live just outside of town (wife wanted more land), about 10min from the closest bigger town, I am on DSL and getting barely 18Mbps. That's in 2021.
I had Spectrum come out to do a survey if they can run their cable (mind you, there's other houses that would benefit obviously). They're like "NAH we ain't running one."

The way areas can be considered as having adequate internet coverage and actual ability of connections/speeds for individual households are very different.

So yeah, I think you've got a point about rural areas. I'm hardly true rural, i.e. Dayton is 20min away, Cincy 50min, Columbus about 1hr, yet internet is laughable.
Had gigabit Fios up in Long Island. We move 20 minutes outside of Philly, and our upload is now 35Mbps. I'm having a Comcast fiber line built to the house for 500/500 service. Today is going to be rough because both my wife and I have video conferences, and it's snowing so EVERYONE is at home going on their Zooms and Netflixes and other beepboops
 

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Yeah, I can't imagine. Granted, I can still work from home, Zoom runs fine, even via VPN to connect to our work servers works fine. We can stream okay.
But that's just the wife and I. Even with multiple devices, truly only 2-6 are used at once (laptop and phone each, thermostat, some smart speakers) etc. Can't imagine having more people try to work while some stream. My download speed is okay, but I can forget (for now) about security cams that need at least 1+Mbps upload, which I don't have.

Even looking into getting modems to connect to the ever-so-heavily-advertised 5G is impossible. Nobody offers them for true home internet, nobody sells SIM cards with truly unlimited data and don't let me start with satellite. If I were an online gamer, I'd be upset. For now we get by. Maybe like 2050 I reach 50Mbps?
You should look into Starlink....

https://www.starlink.com/
 

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The question is:
Is the world going to be ready to support an over run of EV vehicles needing power from the grids based on individual Country, Province, State or County levels?

Hell, we just saw that TX couldn’t even get through some snow and ice; couple their grid with an influx of EVs, what then.... LOL
US, probably not at the moment.

Europe yes - have been investing in the future for years. In 2020 54% of all new cars sold in Norway were EV's. They have managed to keep the power on this winter and they use a lot of renewables and have temperatures similar to Canada.
 

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Had gigabit Fios up in Long Island. We move 20 minutes outside of Philly, and our upload is now 35Mbps. I'm having a Comcast fiber line built to the house for 500/500 service. Today is going to be rough because both my wife and I have video conferences, and it's snowing so EVERYONE is at home going on their Zooms and Netflixes and other beepboops
Our community in NJ was half cable, half fiber. I, of course, lived on the wrong side of the tracks. Now here in Myrtle Beach we have fiber. Started at 50Mbps in 2017, then went to 100Mbps. We were just increased to 300/300Mbps. The cost has remained the same.
 

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US, probably not at the moment.

Europe yes - have been investing in the future for years. In 2020 54% of all new cars sold in Norway were EV's. They have managed to keep the power on this winter and they use a lot of renewables and have temperatures similar to Canada.
The key for the US is that it’s not an impossible challenge.... It can be done, and it can be done relatively easily. Will there be hiccups along the way? Absolutely because unfortunately things have become so partisan here that there will be holdouts and there will be mismanaged local grids (looking at you Texas).... But again, it’s not impossible for the US and we have time...
 

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The key for the US is that it’s not an impossible challenge.... It can be done, and it can be done relatively easily. Will there be hiccups along the way? Absolutely because unfortunately things have become so partisan here that there will be holdouts and there will be mismanaged local grids (looking at you Texas).... But again, it’s not impossible for the US and we have time...
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The key for the US is that it’s not an impossible challenge.... It can be done, and it can be done relatively easily. Will there be hiccups along the way? Absolutely because unfortunately things have become so partisan here that there will be holdouts and there will be mismanaged local grids (looking at you Texas).... But again, it’s not impossible for the US and we have time...
Here’s an interesting read. Unless we can reverse this downward spiral the US as we have known it for 200+ years will cease to exist.

https://www.axios.com/america-cant-...age-6f61660e-61e2-448a-85ed-d284a82a5b2c.html
 

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Man that really sucks. Hard to believe in 2021. I feel bad for the kids in your area that are doing distance learning.
At first I was vehemently opposed to so called distance learning. But then I realized most of what kids are taught in public schools is already pretty distant from the truth.
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