Ford Mustang Dark Horse vs. Dodge Charger Daytona EV

[Zig]

Well, apparently, someone has already done the "cannonball" with an EV and it stands at 42h 17m according to Wiki. This is not far off the 41-43 hour estimated time that google maps shows. (Red Ball Garage Manhattan NY, to Portofino Inn in Redondo Beach CA...

Anyway, The DH is a great car, the Dodge is BIG, it is VERY heavy, and it certainly feels like it was designed by people at cross purposes. I get it, Dodge wanted a car that felt like a car that people are used to driving and buying, but that adds a lot of weight as compared to how other EVs are constructed.

But you can't argue with the test results either. It beat the lighter DH with both drivers. I feel one of the drivers in that comparison was much better than the other, which is why it was a blowout in one contest and much closer in the repeat, but it was still an outright victory for the dodge. I think on a road racing course or on a autocross course, the DH would probably wipe the floor with the Dodge.

That's the thing about tests, they showcase the strengths and weaknesses of each vehicle. I see a lot of people plugging their ears and shouting "It's not FAIR!" like they are in second grade and they just lost a game in gym. It IS a fair test, but it's only one test. There are others out there too, and I am sure the DH would come out on top in a number of those.

A shot of nitrous would combat that burst button quite easily.

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[Zig]

Do rev limiters reduce performance or prevent destruction? Apple to apples would compare like limits. Only capable of spinning to 6500 rpm would raise the question how does the ev do when limited to the same? But different animal different capabilities same course?

 

[Alan Applegate]

The general public, including those who buy and drive EVs, have little clue of the engineering needed to design and manufacture the requisite batteries which powers them. The one commonality of all batteries is they rely on chemistry. They don't make energy, they only store it. Putting in that energy and removing it generates heat, both of which reduce cycle life, state of charge, depth of charge, and causes a host of other problems. Sounds simple, but it is far from simple. If you want to know more, here's a good place to start:

https://www.nrel.gov/transportation/battery-lifespan.html

 

[Zig]

The general public, including those who buy and drive EVs, have little clue of the engineering needed to design and manufacture the requisite batteries which powers them. The one commonality of all batteries is they rely on chemistry. They don't make energy, they only store it. Putting in that energy and removing it generates heat, both of which reduce cycle life, state of charge, depth of charge, and causes a host of other problems. Sounds simple, but it is far from simple. If you want to know more, here's a good place to start:

https://www.nrel.gov/transportation/battery-lifespan.html

basically the difference between a quart of popcorn, as processed or raw (popped vs seeds)

 

[broncoboy22]

It IS a fair test, but it's only one test. There are others out there too, and I am sure the DH q.would come out on top in a number of those.

I would also add it’s a relatively meaningless test for the DH since the car is not meant to be a drag setup car from the factory.

do lots of customers make it into one? Sure. Is it the most common type of racing the car will see? Maybe so. But clearly it’s not the intent of the car from the manufacturer so the test reveals no new information we didn’t already know prior.

If the DH lost to it on a road course or even autocross then there might be something to be upset about.

This test is just a cool video to see the vehicle in motion haha

 

[Zig]

I would also add it’s a relatively meaningless test for the DH since the car is not meant to be a drag setup car from the factory.

do lots of customers make it into one? Sure. Is it the most common type of racing the car will see? Maybe so. But clearly it’s not the intent of the car from the manufacturer so the test reveals no new information we didn’t already know prior.

If the DH lost to it on a road course or even autocross then there might be something to be upset about.

This test is just a cool video to see the vehicle in motion haha

Didn’t the dh come up just a tad shy of the gt in one if those drags?

 

[broncoboy22]

Didn’t the dh come up just a tad shy of the gt in one if those drags?

Yup I believe so, that sounds familiar although I don’t remember exactly which one

 

[Upacurb]

Most of the time my car would lose a drag race to an A10 GT.....
The only way Im winning is if I absolutely nail the launch and even then Im not sure
Im definitely losing to EVs

But here is the thing....I dont really care ....Dark Horse owners shouldnt care if their car loses a drag race to a GT either ....not what my car or the Dark Horse was designed for

Might as well have had a towing competition with the Dark Horse.....

 

[Zig]

Most of the time my car would lose a drag race to an A10 GT.....
The only way Im winning is if I absolutely nail the launch and even then Im not sure
Im definitely losing to EVs

But here is the thing....I dont really care ....Dark Horse owners shouldnt care if their car loses a drag race to a GT either ....not what my car or the Dark Horse was designed for

Might as well have had a towing competition with the Dark Horse.....

Ponies ain’t meant to be hitched

 

[DevilDog]

Faster or not, I really don't care. The front of the Charger looks like another boring electric car and the fake engine noise is, well fake. Kind of like wearing a pair of corduroys without making a "swishing" noise when you walk. I'll take my Mustang GT anytime over the Charger.

 

[robvas]

I would also add it’s a relatively meaningless test for the DH since the car is not meant to be a drag setup car from the factory.

This is the dumbest comment.

None of the cars they test are "meant to be a drag setup". It's not like they have the Dodge Demon on there.

 

[Stonehauler]

A shot of nitrous would combat that burst button quite easily.

If nitrous came installed from the factory, I would agree. But it's not. These were factory setups, not custom setups.

 

[broncoboy22]

Faster or not, I really don't care. The front of the Charger looks like another boring electric car and the fake engine noise is, well fake. Kind of like wearing a pair of corduroys without making a "swishing" noise when you walk. I'll take my Mustang GT anytime over the Charger.

Yup, I’m not really sure who the charger is for. If you’re in the EV market there are better EVs. If you’re in the performance car market there are better performance cars.

if you want a good looking car it definitely ain’t winning any beauty contests

And the fake revving….not for me lol. The Taycan solved the whole EV sound problem the best to me. When my cousin had one I rode with him once and it sounded kind of cool. Still not for me but better than the charger lol

 

[Zig]

Faster or not, I really don't care. The front of the Charger looks like another boring electric car and the fake engine noise is, well fake. Kind of like wearing a pair of corduroys without making a "swishing" noise when you walk. I'll take my Mustang GT anytime over the Charger.

Kinda like a scram engine in an e-vac (battery operated handy vac)

 

[Zig]

If nitrous came installed from the factory, I would agree. But it's not. These were factory setups, not custom setups.

True, do we know if the burst button was available?

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