Unable to Use Forscan After Custom Tune

[roadpilot]

FORD provided the wrong tune, so yes you did say they are responsible to right the wrong.

You said YOU installed your Whipple.

But you also never said who/where you bought your SC from.

You do realize that, if you buy a Whipple from a Whipple reseller, you upload your stock tune and download your new calibration tune from Whipple, right?

This is exactly what beefcake racing did when they installed the Whipple in their '24 GT - and they showed in their videos uploading the stock tune, then downloading the new calibration days later.

I promise you if you walk into any Ford dealer and tell them that you modified your car and now you can't use software that you aren't supposed to have to modify things you aren't supposed to modify and you want them to fix it, you'll be laughed at the whole way out of the service drive.

I'll bet you right now $1,000,000 that won't happen to me.

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[roadpilot]

My local Ford dealer(s) are not willing to replace the PCM without paying me for it

They want to pay YOU to replace your PCM?

and the only tune they will flash on it if I do proceed out of pocket is my stock tune.

You do this.

THEN you flash it with the CORRECT SC tune for the A10 instead of the SC tune for the M6.

 

[ArthurJGuy]

You said YOU installed your Whipple.

But you also never said who/where you bought your SC from.

You do realize that, if you buy a Whipple from a Whipple reseller, you upload your stock tune and download your new calibration tune from Whipple, right?

This is exactly what beefcake racing did when they installed the Whipple in their '24 GT - and they showed in their videos uploading the stock tune, then downloading the new calibration days later.


I'll bet you right now $1,000,000 that won't happen to me.

Wanna bet me?

Who installed it is 100% irrelevant, shop or otherwise, as the installer doesn't provide or create the calibration. Ford is the ONLY one who can create a tune for an S650.

Who I bought the SC from is also irrelevant as they did not provide or create the calibration.

You do realize that if you buy a Whipple from a Whipple reseller, YOU DO NOT UPLOAD YOUR STOCK TUNE, right?. You create a calibration request (If you actually watch the video you linked to, this is explained clearly) and the file that is pulled off with the Tomahawk and uploaded in the calibration request only has 4 lines in the entire file.

The VIN
Any DTCs
The Serial Number of the device
The Part number of the Ford calibration currently installed.

Whipple then forwards that to Ford who sends Whipple the tune to deliver to the customer. If you want to tell me how it works, you better understand how it works yourself first.

 

[ArthurJGuy]

THEN you flash it with the CORRECT SC tune for the A10 instead of the SC tune for the M6.

I do not have that calibration and because Ford has already processed my VIN they can not provide it either.

You're wasting both my time and yours here, and contributing nothing constructive to the conversation.

 

[roadpilot]

I do not have that calibration and because Ford has already processed my VIN they can not provide it either.

You're wasting both my time and yours here, and contributing nothing constructive to the conversation.

Your attitude stinks. Quite frankly, I'm happy you hosed your car. I hope it's years before they unlock the S650.

 

[ArthurJGuy]

Your attitude stinks. Quite frankly, I'm happy you hosed your car. I hope it's years before they unlock the S650.

If you're salty that you're wrong, just say that.

 

[roadpilot]

If you're salty that you're wrong, just say that.

OK, sure. I'm salty. I'm salty for misunderstanding who did what to your car because your description was not clear.

And I'm still glad you hosed your car. Couldn't happen to a better person.

 

[ArthurJGuy]

OK, sure. I'm salty. I'm salty for misunderstanding who did what to your car.

And I'm still glad you hosed your car. You deserve it.

Assumptions are never a good look, especially when you don't have the knowledge of how it works, even worse when your signature says that you only work off facts and not assumptions.

I'm glad I supercharged my car too.

 

[roadpilot]

Assumptions are never a good look, especially when you don't have the knowledge of how it works, even worse when your signature says that you only work off facts and not assumptions.

You missed the "Unless explicitly noted" part.

I'm glad I supercharged my car too.

Your description was not clear.

 

[ArthurJGuy]

Your description was not clear.

My description was irrelevant. No matter who did the install, no matter who installed the calibration, no matter who I bought the supercharger from.

Ford is the ONLY one able to provide a calibration. PERIOD.

 

[roadpilot]

Whomever your paid to phuck your car up should unphuck it. If it was Ford, then Ford should unphuck it, not make excuses why they won't. If you let Ford phuck up your car and don't demand that they make it right, that's YOUR choice.

There is NO way in hell I'm paying someone to do something, they screw it up, then I say, "Yea, well, you tried, no big deal, I'll just live with it as is, maybe you can fix it later, maybe not, who knows." Where I come from, we call that being a cuck. PERIOD.

 

[Sofa King]

Plain and simple; you no longer have the correct PCM for that car... regardless of the forscan issue. If returning it to square one and starting over is impossible, the PCM needs to be replaced! I would accept nothing less. Your local ford dealer is not the one to provide the new PCM (unless they installed the tune).If you are OK with it, fine, but appears you are not... as you are here complaining about it.

You said YOU installed your Whipple.

But you also never said who/where you bought your SC from.

You do realize that, if you buy a Whipple from a Whipple reseller, you upload your stock tune and download your new calibration tune from Whipple, right?

This is exactly what beefcake racing did when they installed the Whipple in their '24 GT - and they showed in their videos uploading the stock tune, then downloading the new calibration days later.


I'll bet you right now $1,000,000 that won't happen to me.

Wanna bet me?

That was my thought too; how did they get it wrong? Every tune I have had, they always started with the cars original tune.

 

[ArthurJGuy]

Plain and simple; you no longer have the correct PCM for that car...

The PCM has not been changed in this car and I'm not complaining. I was just asking a question as to what info I can provide Forscan to get it to work then a bunch of people who don't know how tuning works on an S650 tried to turn this into a pissing match about tuning.

That was my thought too; how did they get it wrong? Every tune I have had, they always started with the cars original tune.

Tuning from an OEM does not work the way a tune does at a performance shop. They don't start with the existing tune and then modify it, in fact they can't modify it. They take the version that they have for that particular VIN and ship it off.

 

[Zig]

I assume the august update of forscan didn’t work/help?

 

[Billycar11]

is this the whipple with or without the warranty that may be the difference.

whoever messed it up should fit it no matter what there is some way.

im sure everything can be flashed back to stock and then send that tune in to whipple again and get the right one

but it may not be free for you if this is the whipple without the warranty.

i have a whipple with a warranty on order
but this scares me i always seem to fall through weird cracks like this for other things

did not think this this was possible as i thought whipple uses your stock tune and just a preset template not some person is in there checking boxes manual yes/no only way i see this getting messed up is human error.

did you send in your tune file or did the shop?
maybe they had another manual car before and mixed up the files?

your car may not even pass inspection in some crazy states if it has the wrong because the CVN/Checksum will not match the approved one i would make that a point to them too

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