Warranted Stage 1 Whipple registration?

[1crazymach]

Has anyone self-installed a Stage 1 warrantied Whipple kit and registered it with Ford? I will be using an ASE Certified Technician not a Ford shop. Also, how did you register it if you did?

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[Skye]

It's my belief self-installs void the Ford powertrain warranty.

If the unit was installed by a Ford Technician, Ford and Whipple will warranty the powertrain against Whipple-induced problems, up to $7500 US. See my Edit below.

But for self-installs, while you have a warranty with Whipple for their parts, (See my edit below)the Ford warranty for the engine, possibly the drivetrain, is now void.

Im attaching the warranty guides for Ford and Whipple.

Ford: "Any damage caused to Ford components due to the failure of aftermarket parts (other than a certified emissions part) is not covered."

Whipple:
" To obtain warranty service on your vehicle upfitted with the Whipple Supercharger Kit(s), the vehicle must have an operational odometer and have maintenance services performed at the intervals as stated in the Ford Motor Company’s vehicle maintenance schedule, either at a Ford dealership or commercial maintenance center. You must present these invoices in the unlikely event of a warranty claim; therefore, we strongly recommend that you retain them for your records.

You must submit copies of the following documents with your warranty claim: (a) your warranty registration form, (b) the receipt showing installation of the Whipple Supercharger Kit(s) by a certified Ford Automotive Technician or ASE automotive service technician, and (c) all requested vehicle maintenance records."

Edit,

Whipple will cover $7500 per engine, $2000 per transmission.

"When a Whipple Supercharger Kit(s) purchased from an Authorized Whipple Dealer is correctly and completely installed by a certified automotive technician or automotive service technician certified by the Institute for Automotive Service Excellence (ASE) on an eligible, legally registered, and licensed vehicle with an operational odometer, Whipple will cover defects in materials and workmanship during the Warranty Period, as solely determined by us."

"Our total liability per covered vehicle under this warranty is limited to $9,500.00 USD (aggregate). Each covered component has its own aggregate value which when combined equals the total liability per vehicle. The engine is covered for $7500.00 USD and $2000.00 USD per transmission. These amounts cannot be combined together to aid in the repair of another covered component."

I continue to read Whipple's warranty. It's very specific. As I continue to read this, it reads like Whipple will only warranty the products if they are installed by a certified tech. Ford will support their warranty, if the Whipple was installed by a Whipple/Ford dealer. Whipple will warranty their parts, if installed by a certified technician. Self-installs? Whipple might not warranty anything at all.

YMMV.

 

[robvas]

He said he is using an ASE certified tech for his "self-install" which they allow...

Maybe a bad choice of words on his part.

 

[Skye]

Hi @Granger Ford , @Zach@Granger ,

We have a question regarding Ford Mustangs, Whipple SuperCharger upgrades and warranties.

@1crazymach is going to have a Whipple installed by an ASE-certified mechanic not associated with Ford. While Whipple's warranty process is clear as to how to certify the project with Whipple, I can't seem to find any reference documents giving guidance for Ford, if using a non-Ford shop.

If the owner uses a non-Ford, ASE-certified mechanic, does Ford continue to honor the Ford car and powertrain warranties? If so, how does the owner of that car present their documents to Ford, amending the build data to show a certified Whipple install?

Thanks In Advance.

 

[Q6543]

I maybe wrong, but I don’t think the warranty has anything to do with ford at all. It becomes on whipple.

Unless you buy the kit and install at the dealer before you take delivery of it brand new, then it’s on the 1 dealer.

 

[1crazymach]

Hi @Granger Ford , @Zach@Granger ,

We have a question regarding Ford Mustangs, Whipple SuperCharger upgrades and warranties.

@1crazymach is going to have a Whipple installed by an ASE-certified mechanic not associated with Ford. While Whipple's warranty process is clear as to how to certify the project with Whipple, I can't seem to find any reference documents giving guidance for Ford, if using a non-Ford shop.

If the owner uses a non-Ford, ASE-certified mechanic, does Ford continue to honor the Ford warranties? If so, how does the owner of that car present their documents to Ford, amending the build data to show a certified Whipple install?

Thanks In Advance.

Thank you

 

[Skye]

I maybe wrong, but I don’t think the warranty has anything to do with ford at all. It becomes on whipple.

That's what we were hoping to clarify.

Ford's general warranty position is, if aftermarket parts were installed and Ford determines those aftermarket parts caused a failure somewhere else, Ford will deny a warranty claim.

Whipple's warranty document on-line says what they'll cover in the engine and transmission up to a certain dollar amount. They do not specify any other components throughout the drivetrain or the car.

If looking at a situation and Ford determines the Whipple drove the failure, Ford will honor the Ford vehicle warranties, if a Ford tech as part of a Ford program did the install.

But what if a ASE certified, non-Ford tech was used, not associated with a dealer program? Whipple makes it clear what they'll cover. But Ford?

Edit,

A U-joint or a rear diff failure for example.

In scenario 1, Ford technician, Ford dealer and program Whipple install, Ford will honor the Ford warranty.

In scenario 2, same failure. But the Whipple was installed by an ASE certified, non-Ford tech. Would Ford continue to honor the Ford drivetrain warranties? Or would Ford see it as an "aftermarket" install. Whipple will not support, as it is not the engine or transmission.

 

[Dharri21]

If you buy the Ford Performance Whipple for the 24+ and install it with an ASE mech it is warranted by FP through the Ford dealers.

 

[snakeyes]

Well - make sure you pick a mod friendly dealer, Whipple mod, or any mod. It helps a great deal regarding everything as I’m sure you all know.

I'm on the fence about the whole SC thing having had a 2019 GT with a Roush installed I wasn’t all that impressed and Roush well they were asshats about some stuff that has left me totally SOUR on that company. If I was to move forward it would be the FP Whipple kit for me with the warranty installed by a mod friendly Ford dealer.

 

[1crazymach]

Called Ford Performance’s 800 number today, and as long as it’s installed by an ASE-certified technician (and their number is on the invoice), it will be warrantied through Ford. Same goes for installations by a Ford Master Technician. Musta be registered withing 30 days. Thank you all for your help.

 

[snakeyes]

Called Ford Performance’s 800 number today, and as long as it’s installed by an ASE-certified technician (and their number is on the invoice), it will be warrantied through Ford. Same goes for installations by a Ford Master Technician. Musta be registered withing 30 days. Thank you all for your help.

Be advised: They (Whipple/Ford) will be very difficult when it comes to ANY warranty service as it may pertain to any defects looking SC related. Also, the warranty IS NOT TRANSFERRABLE if you decide to sell the car in a year the warranty WILL NOT TRANSFER to a new owner. This can and more than likely be a very big issue for buyers. (It was for me - when I sold my Roush blown GT).

Also, you will not be able to find a third party warranty company to buy a warranty for the vehicles as most if not ALL warranty companies will not touch a SC car. Again, if you want to trade your car into a dealer they typically will not take SC cars in trade (to much risk - no reward)

These are the things you need to think about when and if you move forward...

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