2024 Mustang sales lowest in history of Mustang

[Mustang1987]

nope. I mention it whenever it’s relevant. You’re not putting any timeframe in my mouth.

fact is you came up with a straw man and now you you don’t know what to do because people like you can’t admit wrong.

sad.

What was I wrong about?

Im saying you mention the same thing multiple times a day. A new platform isn't coming until 2030 no matter how many times you mention it.

This is the mustang until 2030. Period. Buy one or don't buy one, nobody cares if you do or don't.

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[Gregs24]

Same nonsensical replies yet again.
Contribute or o back to the basement.

Now you resort to your hero's insults

 

[9secondko]

What was I wrong about?

Im saying you mention the same thing multiple times a day. A new platform isn't coming until 2030 no matter how many times you mention it.

This is the mustang until 2030. Period. Buy one or don't buy one, nobody cares if you do or don't.

you started arguing as if I advocated for a new platform right away. These things take time snd the s650 is not even one year in.

you put up a straw man went after it. Pointless.

you were wrong about that.

anything worthwhile is worth repeating. A true, all-new lighter, stronger platform is definitely worth mentioning more than a few times.

And 2030 has nothing to do with it. When Ford gets tired of failing, they’ll roll it out.

You may not like someone’s opinion. Doesn’t mean they can’t express it. Get used to thst. It’s how life works.

 

[9secondko]

Now you resort to your hero's insults

who, Superman? Thor?

anyway, get back to the basement, where it’s apparently a safe space to protect yourself from reading the opinions of those who dare advocate for a truly great Mustang on a mustang forum of all places.

 

[Mustang1987]

you started arguing as if I advocated for a new platform right away. These things take time snd the s650 is not even one year in.

you put up a straw man went after it. Pointless.

you were wrong about that.

anything worthwhile is worth repeating. A true, all-new lighter, stronger platform is definitely worth mentioning more than a few times.

And 2030 has nothing to do with it. When Ford gets tired of failing, they’ll roll it out.

You may not like someone’s opinion. Doesn’t mean they can’t express it. Get used to thst. It’s how life works.

My post meant that the more times you repeat it doesn't make it come sooner. Once every week should be fine.

 

[Fruitstang]

Whoever still says S650 is essentially an S550.
They modified suspension and stearing for example (not just springs or dampers).
Turn the wheel of both cars to the max and on the S550 you feel a solid mechanical stop, while on the S650 it feels soft and indifferent.
That's more than just putting different tail lights or bumpers on the car.
Also exhaust valves are placed differently - bad for aftermarket companies and their own suppliers - a change they will probably not do for no reason.

The press spread the word "it's just S550 2.0" and I don't know why.

 

[Upacurb]

Whoever still says S650 is essentially an S550.
They modified suspension and stearing for example (not just springs or dampers).
Turn the wheel of both cars to the max and on the S550 you feel a solid mechanical stop, while on the S650 it feels soft and indifferent.
That's more than just putting different tail lights or bumpers on the car.
Also exhaust valves are placed differently - bad for aftermarket companies and their own suppliers - a change they will probably not do for no reason.

The press spread the word "it's just S550 2.0" and I don't know why.

Compare the changes going from the 2017 to the 2018 S550 to the changes going from the S550 to S650....

2017 vs 2018

6 speed auto to 10 speed auto
435hp to 460hp
Magneride launched
active exhaust launched
digital dash launched
drag mode launched
different body panels

but the 2018 was still considered an S550

 

[Jonyxz]

look at the dark horse for example. It’s a decent looking car. But it’s a bit cowboy Bob. In the way it looks. I don’t see any bmw looking like it belongs in a Midwest barn.

 

[9secondko]

My post meant that the more times you repeat it doesn't make it come sooner. Once every week should be fine.

but that’s not what you said.
In any case, since it doesn’t matter according to you, I’ll just keep repeating it.

thanks for your contribution.

 

[9secondko]

LOL. Not going to argue. But also…

the bmw has more of a “beaver teeth” thing going on.

the mustang has more “pig nostrils.”

especially with the rtr grille - which is now a factory look. Wild.

 

[Mustang1987]

but that’s not what you said.
In any case, since it doesn’t matter according to you, I’ll just keep repeating it.

thanks for your contribution.

That is what I said.

Thanks for your "copy and paste" contributions as well.

 

[Jonyxz]

LOL. Not going to argue. But also…

the bmw has more of a “beaver teeth” thing going on.

the mustang has more “pig nostrils.”

especially with the rtr grille - which is now a factory look. Wild.

I think you should go back to see some cowboy bob episodes. Might make you feel happier.

 

[9secondko]

I think you should go back to see some cowboy bob episodes. Might make you feel happier.

the dark horse is the main culprit. More so than the GT.

 

[Jonyxz]

the dark horse is the main culprit. More so than the GT.

Why someone would insist on so many negative comments about mustangs on a mustang forum is beyond me. Also, blindly praising other brands in comparison is just hilarious. Are you trolling us?

It appears by your comments and lack of knowledge that you havent owned neither an g8x M or an S650. What the hell are you doing here?

Fyi, I have owned a g80 M3 and could post a full page of criticisms, reasons for selling and prefering the Dark Horse over it but none of these considerations are relevant to this thread.

In the end, I recommend you to go to a dealer, buy whatever you prefer and get in that brand forum with a more documented and honest opinion.

Your current opinion is not adding much value here.

 

[9secondko]

Why someone would insist on so many negative comments about mustangs on a mustang forum is beyond me. Also, blindly praising other brands in comparison is just hilarious. Are you trolling us?

It appears by your comments and lack of knowledge that you havent owned neither an g8x M or an S650. What the hell are you doing here?

Fyi, I have owned a g80 M3 and could post a full page of criticisms, reasons for selling and prefering the Dark Horse over it but none of these considerations are relevant to this thread.

In the end, I recommend you to go to a dealer, buy whatever you prefer and get in that brand forum with a more documented and honest opinion.

Your current opinion is not adding much value here.

what?!? You come to a thread about failing sales numbers and want everyone to be all excited? This is the worst in all of history. The heck is wrong with you? Get real man.

gotta call it like it is, no matter how much it hurts.

A discussion forum is for … *gasp!* … discussion. I know right?

it’s not the cheerleading or put your head in the ground forum.

it’s talking mustang, ups, downs, and everywhere in between.

man’s who the heck cares about a g80 m?

I have a new z4 b58 m40i, but I’m not posting about it to justify anything. It’s a great car by the way. Researched it quite a bit before buying (mostly for the girl).

As for me, I’ve owned three mustangs and one of them was my first car, which wasn’t a good car btw.

I’ve lived through times the Mustang was stellar snd times the mustang was a downer. There are reasons why each is the case and it all comes down to vision and investment.

like it or not, the current generation is a dud. The sales prove it. It’s a very old platform that is doing the bare minimum to get by during what started as an unsure time period. So while I can see why Ford did it, it’s also a philosophy that fails every time. Minimal investment equals minimal return. When Ford gets aggressive and acts like a startup with a chip in its shoulder, it wins.

But it all depends on whose hands are on the steering wheel and running the ship. You put the wrong people there and you get trouble.

As a massive mustang fan, I’m not ok with mediocrity or lame decisions.

you might be ok with an suv called “mustang,” a door factory called “mustang,” etc. but a great many, if not most are not. You might be ok with paying 70k for an old, heavy, inefficient platform thst struggles to make use of some of the best engines around. Many of us aren’t. Sure, some will buy in even now because it’s a mustang after all. But they’d be much better served by a platform befitting the iconic status of the car and getting much more value for their hard earned dollars.

me personally, I’m a man of principle. Maybe you’re not. But I’m careful where I invest, how I spend, and what equity I’m receiving in return. I won’t spend new car money on an old car with an extra throttle body and new lights.

you might soil yourself over someone expressing legit criticism out of desire to be heard and effect any slight remote possibility of change. But defending mediocrity or attacking someone calling it out helps nothing. It only encourages more mediocrity. Good luck with that.

if the current trend continues, the Mustang itself (the real one. Not the rebadged SUVs, etc) is in danger. Some of us aren’t not ok with that. So we do what little we can do and post our little words in mustang forums on topics such as “how to save the mustang.”

so you can cry yourself a river that someone isn’t blindly shouting the the praises of ford diluting the mustang name and investing in everything BUT the mustang. But others of us actually care about the car. The frustrating part is it’s not some mystery nor is rocket science required to right the ship. Just need some common sense back in the boardroom.

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