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That’s the problem. No competition = ford can do whatever it wants with pricing. Sure they’re the only game in town with a V8 manual. But are you willing to pay an elevated price for it? That’s entirely up to consumers everywhere and with the price increases that question is something people will have to deal with at a higher priority with inflation everywhere affecting their lives. They can keep increasing prices year after year without iterating on anything with the car, and as long as the consumers keep buying then they’ll keep doing it. People in this thread are correctly calling it out because the only person this hurts is the consumer.
To be honest my 2011GT Premium 6 speed had MSRP of ~36K in the year 2011. If you take that number into an inflation calculator you get a number of ~50.3K in 2024. Recall that 2011 had solid axle and ~400Hp-V8 engine. Checking the 2025 pricing numbers from motor1.com (snap attached) The 2025 GT premium is priced at $51,175.00. So for about 1.5K more you are getting a much better vehicle with many more features that it did not have in the year 2011. If those features were available in 2011 one would have paid much more for them. Now you can ask if the 2025 price increase by FOMOCO is reasonable or not? I would say it is reasonable just for the engine HP increase alone.

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To be honest my 2011GT Premium 6 speed had MSRP of ~36K in the year 2011. If you take that number into an inflation calculator you get a number of ~50.3K in 2024. Recall that 2011 had solid axle and ~400Hp-V8 engine. Checking the 2025 pricing numbers from motor1.com (snap attached) The 2025 GT premium is priced at $51,175.00. So for about 1.5K more you are getting a much better vehicle with many more features that it did not have in the year 2011. If those features were available in 2011 one would have paid much more for them. Now you can ask if the 2025 price increase by FOMOCO is reasonable or not? I would say it is reasonable just for the engine HP increase alone.

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Agreed, but there's no use in talking sense around here lol. He sees a price increase for one year and compares it to the previous year not thinking about how prior years there werent much increases (below the rate of inflation).
 

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This has probably been discussed already but I don't feel like reading all 11+ pages so...

I peek at DH's every so often but the price keeps pushing me away.

I ordered my Mach a little over 3 years ago and the sticker was $59,010. Only options were Premium and handling package. I just priced a 2025 DH exactly the same way and it came out to $76,060, a 29% increase.

I have gotten what I thought were good raises since then but am making about 12% more.

No need for anyone to justify or explain why the prices are so much higher, I get it. Just throwing another data point out there.
 

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I peek at DH's every so often but the price keeps pushing me away.

I ordered my Mach a little over 3 years ago and the sticker was $59,010. Only options were Premium and handling package. I just priced a 2025 DH exactly the same way and it came out to $76,060, a 29% incr
OK, if you place that number into the calculator it should cost ~68.5K in 2024, but the 2025 DH is I think much better car then the 2021 Mach1 and the MSRP for 2024 year for the DH was around 70K with the handling package. It is true that salaries have not increased by ~30% for many folks.

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This has probably been discussed already but I don't feel like reading all 11+ pages so...

I peek at DH's every so often but the price keeps pushing me away.

I ordered my Mach a little over 3 years ago and the sticker was $59,010. Only options were Premium and handling package. I just priced a 2025 DH exactly the same way and it came out to $76,060, a 29% increase.

I have gotten what I thought were good raises since then but am making about 12% more.

No need for anyone to justify or explain why the prices are so much higher, I get it. Just throwing another data point out there.
Yep, the price creep on the GT and DH is real, and putting them in line with some arguably better cars. I posted in another thread about the price of the Mustang increasing more rapidly than inflation, the new car market as a whole, and some of its competitors. People on here will make excuses for Ford, but in the last 4 years, the Mustang GT base price has increased 26.7%. That's absurd when you consider the Corvette is only up 16% and the M2 just 10%. Ford knows they're the only game in town if you want a manual V8, and they're going to milk it for all its worth.
 

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I know a lot of us are mad at Ford right now, and in some cases, justifiably so. But as sad as it is, this really isn't Ford's fault. If you're spending hundreds of millions of dollars to develop a product for a dwindling audience, the only real way to make a feasible business case for that is to sell your product at a higher price point with better profit margins. You gotta find some way to turn a profit, and it definitely isn't gonna be in the form of sales volume with a V8 RWD sports coupe in this day and age.

I will say with these price increases, I do see a lot of potential in making a smaller, cheaper mustang for younger audiences on Ford's upcoming cheap EV platform or something. A lot of young people love the idea of an affordable, great looking, fun to drive coupe, and couldn't care less what sort of powertrain is in it.
 

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I know a lot of us are mad at Ford right now, and in some cases, justifiably so. But as sad as it is, this really isn't Ford's fault. If you're spending hundreds of millions of dollars to develop a product for a dwindling audience, the only real way to make a feasible business case for that is to sell your product at a higher price point with better profit margins. You gotta find some way to turn a profit, and it definitely isn't gonna be in the form of sales volume with a V8 RWD sports coupe in this day and age.

I will say with these price increases, I do see a lot of potential in making a smaller, cheaper mustang for younger audiences on Ford's upcoming cheap EV platform or something. A lot of young people love the idea of an affordable, great looking, fun to drive coupe, and couldn't care less what sort of powertrain is in it.
I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but my point of contention is that the recent price increases may lead to the audience just getting smaller, which only compounds the problem. Ford clearly didn't make the 7G a priority considering it's basically a reskinned S550--and that's a shame for us--but understandable as you say since these aren't exactly hot sellers. It's just frustrating when you look at what GM is doing across town with the C8; they made a HUGE investment in a car that sells less than the Mustang.
 

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I have to respectfully disagree with you there. In my opinion, same car with different badges plus an extra 20 hp.
Numerous outlets, reviewers, actual racers came to this conclusion as well. The lap time may be better by a second or two, but for 99% of the user base, it’s the exact same car. Of course there were small iterations from the s550 -> s650 but by and large, most of the car remains the same. Again, like I’ve stated on many threads; whether those increments are worth a higher increase in price than inflation, entirely up to the consumer. But it’s without question that the price increases are pricing out the core Mustang fanbase, the ones that want an affordable American muscle car. The reason why me and others have called out a price increase compared to last year is because the price has changed more than inflation for the exact same car, minus less options for colors as well as increasing the price of packages. That increase in price puts it in competition with a bunch of cars that the Mustang used to beat out in terms of value. The Mustang definitely does not beat out any of the options in terms of value. But ford is the only manual v8 in town, so whatever price they set is what consumers will pay for it. Whether it’s worth it is entirely up to the consumer, I think the next couple years will be interesting
 
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Look, I’m a Mustang guy and don’t want to give the impression that I’m hating on the DH.

The problem for most of us is that in spite of the price, some people are paying it.
Ya exactly, everyone here loves the Mustang. Either has one, has had one in the past, or is just a fan of the Mustang. But it’s important as a consumer to put subjectivity aside when a company engages in bad behavior. And it’s insane to have to explain how the price isn’t justified when multiple people have shown evidence with numbers and on other social media platforms people are rightly calling it out too. Mustang fans don’t realize that by paying extreme prices for these new models, they send a message to ford to continue to raise the price. It’s why I said in one of my earlier comments on another thread, if they made the base price of a Mustang 200k, there will be some on this forum who pay for it simply because it is a Mustang. It’s been tiring going back and forth on it, but some people put subjectivity over objectivity and it’s not worth it to argue with that
 

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OK, if you place that number into the calculator it should cost ~68.5K in 2024, but the 2025 DH is I think much better car then the 2021 Mach1 and the MSRP for 2024 year for the DH was around 70K with the handling package. It is true that salaries have not increased by ~30% for many folks.

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And you're talking the official inflation, which is nowhere near the actual inflation. We had more than 100% on most things over 3 years.

But following modern economics, I won't defend Ford or any other manufacturer. It is all supply and demand. They can cry inflation and margin compression all they want. The market either pays for it or not.

I visited the nearest ford delare twice and they have 15 to 20 GT's under MSRP sitting.
 

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Hi Guys...... Does anybody know the date when the last of the 2024 builds will be completed and when will the 2025 commence? TIA.
lol, I just asked the same thing of Roket on another Thread. Hope there is still a couple of months to order a MY24 with Atlas Blue.
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