How many miles did yours come with?

[RebelMan]

For the record, mine hit the lot with 3.0 miles on it. PDI added 2.5 (which included a trip to the gas station) and I added 1.0 at the time I took this photo. My expectations were met and I was VERY delighted. Were you as delighted with yours'@HWill?

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[IFFV68]

Thanks ! Looks like the miles are all over the board on this. I appreciate the replies !

My 2024 GT, Atlas Blue 401-A, with active exhaust had 6 Miles on it when I drove it from the Dealership Home.
Had to find a Plastic Surgeon to get the Smile off my Face.
The lowest mileage was on my 1971 Ford Bronco Sport.
The Bronco had 4 Miles on it.

 

[HWill]

I have a clearer understanding of the original post. If that statement taxes your ego then that would be a you problem. Furthermore, my accounts are factually based, not misinformed. You are free to disagree, but you would be wrong.

No car should come from the factory with 30 miles on it but if it does because of additional QC or FRAP or whatever then it should be documented as such. If its's not documented, then NO ONE KNOWS what happened. It's ALL speculation. You're trying to justify that it's not. You can't.

Saying what you think, may, can, and does happen is again all SPECULATIVE. You could be right, but NO ONE KNOWS for sure. I don't like it and neither do a lot of other people because we are left to wonder. It would be foolish to assume that no questionable actives take place in transit/delivery of our vehicles and that's what gripes us (that give a damn).

I indulged you by reviewing the link you provided covering the same ground (which we are beating to death here) and again the vast majority have vehicles with far less than 30 miles on. Like I have been saying there are a few exceptions, and some people are okay with that but just as many if not more are not. Regardless NO ONE KNOWS what happened to incur those extra miles and THAT IS THE POINT and it's NOT okay.

The link even shows more vehicles with +10 miles, first few pages are mostly 20's and 30's!
Even some post in there are agreeing that it is not unusual to have 20-30 miles on them.

Again you are speculating and I'm telling you what I have seen and what can cause this "when a vehicle comes off a truck from being delivered to the dealership.

And I haven't seen it in a while but some vehicle that are selected for testing do have a sticker and/or some form of documentation.

Speculating is you assuming something bad has happened with the miles he has on it. I just offered reasons it could be which is far more helpful than what you offered!

I have seen more vehicles come off a truck then you have ever bought!

Like I said I fully understand your thinking. But it does happen and they are all not cause for concern.

And your car is best case with 3miles. And that is really cool.
I think I was the second batch of Mustangs delivered by rail in Az. I have to look up my pictures but I think I had 8miles on mine when it came off the truck. I had a 2018 F150 with 6miles but it was PDI and ready to go so that was the lowest I ever had which if guessing based on their PDI route puts it around 3miles.

 

[RebelMan]

The link even shows more vehicles with +10 miles, first few pages are mostly 20's and 30's!
Even some post in there are agreeing that it is not unusual to have 20-30 miles on them.

Again you are speculating and I'm telling you what I have seen and what can cause this "when a vehicle comes off a truck from being delivered to the dealership.

And I haven't seen it in a while but some vehicle that are selected for testing do have a sticker and/or some form of documentation.

Speculating is you assuming something bad has happened with the miles he has on it. I just offered reasons it could be which is far more helpful than what you offered!

I have seen more vehicles come off a truck then you have ever bought!

Like I said I fully understand your thinking. But it does happen and they are all not cause for concern.

And your car is best case with 3miles. And that is really cool.
I think I was the second batch of Mustangs delivered by rail in Az. I have to look up my pictures but I think I had 8miles on mine when it came off the truck. I had a 2018 F150 with 6miles but it was PDI and ready to go so that was the lowest I ever had which if guessing based on their PDI route puts it around 3miles.

You need to audit your numbers because they are off. Speculation by definition is "the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence". In other words, you need proof of what went on. Neither you or I or anyone else (i.e. buyers) can prove how the miles were accumulated. It has nothing to do with making assumptions. So, either one of us could be right, but neither one of us can prove it.

You are giving the benefit of the doubt that the miles accumulated are all legitimate. I, on the other hand, do not. Why? Because I know for a fact that monkey business does happen in this industry. How do I know, because I was told head on that it does.

So, while the OP may not have anything to worry about, from your point of view, from my point of view he does. Remember, he ordered his car. It wasn't sitting on the lot being test driven by whomever or whatever. And it is NOT acceptable for the manufacture to perform QC tests on a custom order either. Don't tell me but rather SHOW me proof that they do that (again on a custom order) and I'll concede.

From my experience it's a major red flag and I stand by my remarks until it can be proven otherwise, which it can't, so there you have it.

 

[HWill]

You need to audit your numbers because they are off. Speculation by definition is "the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence". In other words, you need proof of what went on. Neither you or I or anyone else (i.e. buyers) can prove how the miles were accumulated. It has nothing to do with making assumptions. So, either one of us could be right, but neither one of us can prove it.

You are giving the benefit of the doubt that the miles accumulated are all legitimate. I, on the other hand, do not. Why? Because I know for a fact that monkey business does happen in this industry. How do I know, because I was told head on that it does.

So, while the OP may not have anything to worry about, from your point of view, from my point of view he does. Remember, he ordered his car. It wasn't sitting on the lot being test driven by whomever or whatever. And it is NOT acceptable for the manufacture to perform QC tests on a custom order either. Don't tell me but rather SHOW me proof that they do that (again on a custom order) and I'll concede.

From my experience it's a major red flag and I stand by my remarks until it can be proven otherwise, which it can't, so there you have it.

What numbers are off? Show me!

What proof do you need? I'm not the only one to say it is not abnormal to have those miles on a new car!

You are overlooking the fact that I said I don't know what has happened to his car!

You are going off of what you were told based on what I have seen first hand!

What cause of concern should he have?

What are you assume to make it such a red flag?

It is really hard to see how you want to continue this when I just offered my experience of why a vehicle can have that many miles on delivery. In your mind it rarely happens but fact is it is not true.

I'm not sure why you even bring up the test drive stuff I mentioned as I said I have never seen them do it on a Custom Ordered vehicle!

In your mind you think a vehicle comes off the line on to a truck or rail car and goes directly to the dealership. That is not how it always happens. Again vehicles are moved at the Ford staging areas, sometimes moved more than once. They are not towed, they are driven! Even at some of the train depots the cars are placed and depending on inventory can be moved more than once before loaded on a truck to the dealership.

You have already shown me you know far less than what I do about this. Your only experience is something you were told. Yeah you might have experience with getting a vehicle with low miles and like I said that was cool. BUT you have NO experience dealing with this at all. So you know nothing!

Trying to use definitions doesn't make you smart when you are wrong. And you are wrong to try to say that he has something to worry about. I know it is hard for you but understand but I wasn't saying this is what happened to his car but gave him reasons it does happen.
You are just crying because I quoted you for trying to show cause for concern when as you said you don't know what really happened. You sound like the one on the losing end there.

 

[SAL-E]

8 on mine when it arrived at the dealership.

 

[RebelMan]

What numbers are off? Show me!

Spoken like a true liberal. It was your link. Do the work to prove your case.

Your logic is also littered with circular reasoning and is empty. My experiences have been documented and again I have NEVER had this problem and neither have most (if you have been following the recent posts surrounding your diatribe). You want to speculatively justify that its okay by what you have seen but I cannot?! Hypocrisy!!!

You continue to take statements out of context and dwell on them myopically and with a singular bias. You made your point. I made mine. Leave it up to the OP to decide. Now it's time for you to buzz off.

 

[Ciulster]

4km. I'm pretty sure the sales manager made everyone push the car around the dealership as needed because he didn't trust anyone to not roast the clutch before I took delivery.

 

[HWill]

Spoken like a true liberal. It was your link. Do the work to prove your case.

Your logic is also littered with circular reasoning and is empty. My experiences have been documented and again I have NEVER had this problem and neither have most (if you have been following the recent posts surrounding your diatribe). You want to speculatively justify that its okay by what you have seen but I cannot?! Hypocrisy!!!

You continue to take statements out of context and dwell on them myopically and with a singular bias. You made your point. I made mine. Leave it up to the OP to decide. Now it's time for you to buzz off.

Liberal? I was thinking the same thing when I read your post, but I don't need to do the name calling.
You only have experience from one side. I have experience from both sides.

There is nothing out of context, you just want to be right, almost have to be right so bad it is bugging you.

IF you would have said " I would be concerned", then I wouldn't have quoted you. But you adamantly implied there was wrongdoing! And then stating you don't know what actually happened to his vehicle.
That makes no sense.

I have the experience and even done the homework on that thread and even listed just what the first couple pages had. Thats facts! There are also other threads of the same topic here. And there is the same topic on other vehicle forums. Fact is it is more common than you think.

You say leave it up to the OP to decide but you want to egg him on from what you heard happens from others.
And I'm laying out what could have happened and does happen often.
I think I gave him better advice then you.

I think since you selectively quote and respond to certain things because you can't answer all of the questions.

To humor you here it is.
Page 1. 9 total listed with 7 over 10 miles! Highest there was 28 miles.
Page 2. 7 total listed with 3 over 10 miles! Highest there was 32 miles.
Page 3. 8 total listed with 6 over 10 miles! Highest there was 50 miles.
Page 4. 11 total listed with 3 over 10 miles! Highest there was 40 miles.
Page 5. 6 total listed with 5 over 10 miles! Highest there was 36 miles.
Page 6. 7 total listed with 5 over 10 miles! Highest there was 30 miles.
Page 7. 13 total listed with 5 over 10 miles! Highest there was 56 miles.
Page 8. 3 total listed with 1 over 10 miles! Highest there was 16 miles.
Page 9. 6 total listed with 3 over 10miles! Highest there was 25miles.

I know you didn't read that thread because there was some post in there that echo'd what I said.
There was even some that stated they would be upset, which I can understand.

Although there was only 70+ listed in that thread almost half had more than 10 miles on them.

 

[RebelMan]

Liberal? I was thinking the same thing when I read your post, but I don't need to do the name calling.

I call it like I see it.

You only have experience from one side. I have experience from both sides.

Maybe, but your experience is heavily biased to one side.

There is nothing out of context, you just want to be right, almost have to be right so bad it is bugging you.

Heh, you started this with your antagonizing (liberal) remarks. My information is based on experiences not hearsay and is every bit as valid as anyone else that posts here. Putting those experiences up against yours is what's bugging you and your elitist attitude.

IF you would have said " I would be concerned", then I wouldn't have quoted you. But you adamantly implied there was wrongdoing! And then stating you don't know what actually happened to his vehicle.
That makes no sense.

Who appointed you wordsmith police? Again, liberal behavior. Nothing about my statements adamantly imply wrongdoing. Misinterpreting what I said, however, is wrongdoing and you continue to do it. For you to assume to know what happened is grossly negligent on your behalf. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED EITHER!!! Time to wise up.

I have the experience and even done the homework on that thread and even listed just what the first couple pages had. Thats facts! There are also other threads of the same topic here. And there is the same topic on other vehicle forums. Fact is it is more common than you think.

Perhaps the experience of an ego maniac. Again, without proof you have nothing.

You say leave it up to the OP to decide but you want to egg him on from what you heard happens from others.
And I'm laying out what could have happened and does happen often.
I think I gave him better advice then you.

You're misinformed and furthermore you can't prove that. You're in desperation of a losing battle.

I think since you selectively quote and respond to certain things because you can't answer all of the questions.

I'm not retired like you seem to be. I would rather spend my time elsewhere but alas I must defend myself against a liberal loon.

To humor you here it is.
Page 1. 9 total listed with 7 over 10 miles! Highest there was 28 miles.
Page 2. 7 total listed with 3 over 10 miles! Highest there was 32 miles.
Page 3. 8 total listed with 6 over 10 miles! Highest there was 50 miles.
Page 4. 11 total listed with 3 over 10 miles! Highest there was 40 miles.
Page 5. 6 total listed with 5 over 10 miles! Highest there was 36 miles.
Page 6. 7 total listed with 5 over 10 miles! Highest there was 30 miles.
Page 7. 13 total listed with 5 over 10 miles! Highest there was 56 miles.
Page 8. 3 total listed with 1 over 10 miles! Highest there was 16 miles.
Page 9. 6 total listed with 3 over 10miles! Highest there was 25miles.

I know you didn't read that thread because there was some post in there that echo'd what I said.
There was even some that stated they would be upset, which I can understand.

Although there was only 70+ listed in that thread almost half had more than 10 miles on them.

You deleted the link (curious) so I am unable to corroborate your data. However, using the link Skye provided in his first post I came up with these empirical statistics of that thread...

NOTE: Any miles listed that the owner could not account for with certainty were excluded as they are not relevant to this discussion.

Of the 68 vehicles counted... 53% <= 10mi, 25% <= 20mi, 16% <= 28mi and 6% > 28 mi. As you can clearly see, over half had no more than 10 miles and nearly 80% had no more than 20 miles. The numbers have spoken.

 

[IFFV68]

I call it like I see it.

Maybe, but your experience is heavily biased to one side.

Heh, you started this with your antagonizing (liberal) remarks. My information is based on experiences not hearsay and is every bit as valid as anyone else that posts here. Putting those experiences up against yours is what's bugging you and your elitist attitude.

Who appointed you wordsmith police? Again, liberal behavior. Nothing about my statements adamantly imply wrongdoing. Misinterpreting what I said, however, is wrongdoing and you continue to do it. For you to assume to know what happened is grossly negligent on your behalf. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED EITHER!!! Time to wise up.

Perhaps the experience of an ego maniac. Again, without proof you have nothing.

You're misinformed and furthermore you can't prove that. You're in desperation of a losing battle.

I'm not retired like you seem to be. I would rather spend my time elsewhere but alas I must defend myself against a liberal loon.



You deleted the link (curious) so I am unable to corroborate your data. However, using the link Skye provided in his first post I came up with these empirical statistics of that thread...

NOTE: Any miles listed that the owner could not account for with certainty were excluded as they are not relevant to this discussion.

Of the 68 vehicles counted... 53% <= 10mi, 25% <= 20mi, 16% <= 28mi and 6% > 28 mi. As you can clearly see, over half had no more than 10 miles and nearly 80% had no more than 20 miles. The numbers have spoken.

I don’t wanna get mixed up in this, but my 2020 F150 Limited when I made the purchase had 36 miles on it.
It’s not 36 miles off the truck. 🛻
Customers Test drive these vehicles and put miles on them.
Just my two cents.
Good Luck

 

[rijndael]

My 2024 GT had 35 miles on it. The sticker notes it was a Special Order, so I'm guessing they passed on it after the test drive.

 

[RebelMan]

I don’t wanna get mixed up in this, but my 2020 F150 Limited when I made the purchase had 36 miles on it.
It’s not 36 miles off the truck. 🛻
Customers Test drive these vehicles and put miles on them.
Just my two cents.
Good Luck

Not unreasonable to accumulate miles from test drives. In the OP's case he custom ordered his vehicle and how those miles racked up was/is debatable.

 

[RebelMan]

My 2024 GT had 35 miles on it. The sticker notes it was a Special Order, so I'm guessing they passed on it after the test drive.

The green Special Order stickers are custom orders (not dealer orders) as you may know. If I had to guess the original buyer probably found what he wanted on the lot and just got tired of waiting. I was tempted to almost do the same.

 

[rijndael]

The green Special Order stickers are custom orders (not dealer orders) as you may know.

I'm not familiar with the green sticker, I was referring to the new car window sticker. Mine says "Special Order" at the bottom.

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