Looking to get some lowering springs for my car 24 GT Premium with PP (no magnaride)

[Emu]

First mustang, first manual, first v8, first Ford. Lots of firsts but I'm loving it so far.

Will end up with going for either of these, eibach, FP. But I'm not sure if the performance package causes any issues, or if there is anything else I will also need. Im leaning towards the FP stuff, either sport or track, but I've heard that the sport is what comes on the PP cars. If that's true ill end up going track. Steeda is a little too low for me, eibach seems like a happy medium. Will I need new shocks or struts with any of these springs?

The car is completely stock, also no active exhaust (single tips), so it may end up getting an axleback or catback at some point. If anyone knows any good ones that don't drone or make it absurdly loud, I'm open to suggestions.

Thanks

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[AZ_Ryan]

No, you will not need new shocks or struts.

Word of advice though. Find a good and reputable shop to do the work if you aren't doing it yourself. Many people don't install them correctly and you'll end up having noise or possible strut issues. The issue is "clocking" or orientation of the springs with in the seats. Most people don't orient them correctly, or they over/undertighten the bolts in the wrong order.

I had a terrible experience on my lowered S550 because of this.

Also, if you lower you will need camber plates and a good alignment. Unfortunately most people don't like to align lowered cars, and the ones who will often suck.

Don't forget if you are still under warranty Ford won't touch any of your suspension after its modified.

 

[Emu]

No, you will not need new shocks or struts.

Word of advice though. Find a good and reputable shop to do the work if you aren't doing it yourself. Many people don't install them correctly and you'll end up having noise or possible strut issues. The issue is "clocking" or orientation of the springs with in the seats. Most people don't orient them correctly, or they over/undertighten the bolts in the wrong order.

I have a terrible experience on my lowered S550 because of this.

Also, if you lower you will need camber plates and a good alignment. Unfortunately most people don't like to align lowered cars, and the ones who will often suck.

Don't forget if you are still under warranty Ford won't touch any of your suspension after its modified.

Thanks for the heads up, the camber plates are what worried me, just another thing that could end up wonky. My last car was lowered and had issues for a long time, finally got rid of it for this so maybe ill keep it the way it is for a good while and not worry about it since it only has 5k miles on it. And never know what might come up in warranty which is a good point. I appreciate the honest advice, and if I do end up going for the lowering springs ill make sure to have it done somewhere reputable.

Thanks!

 

[86pagt]

I had a 2019 lowered with BMR min drop FP track shocks and struts.. Steeda camber plates no issues and alignment was good… it does take the right shop to do it that way you want and not just in the green. To me the min drop was the perfect amount. I just installed BMR handling springs with FP track shocks and struts and the ride is definitely stiffer which is to be expected maybe lowered the car .75… I forgot to take before measurements. If you stay around 1” or less you should be fine. If you’re looking to keep the factory struts and shocks the BMR min drop spring would work fine and proved a nice stance.

For axle back… if you want to go quad tip look at the Ford Performance quad tip system for non active cars, it will come with the rear valance and the mufflers are made by Borla.. I have active exhaust and installed the FP kit that came with the dark horse rear valance. Very happy with the sound with the steeda H pipe. I got it on sale and turned out to be around the same price as the Borla axel back.

https://www.americanmuscle.com/ford...back-darkhorse-rear-valance-m-5230-m5ebv.html

 

[Emu]

I had a 2019 lowered with BMR min drop FP track shocks and struts.. Steeda camber plates no issues and alignment was good… it does take the right shop to do it that way you want and not just in the green. To me the min drop was the perfect amount. I just installed BMR handling springs with FP track shocks and struts and the ride is definitely stiffer which is to be expected maybe lowered the car .75… I forgot to take before measurements. If you stay around 1” or less you should be fine. If you’re looking to keep the factory struts and shocks the BMR min drop spring would work fine and proved a nice stance.

For axle back… if you want to go quad tip look at the Ford Performance quad tip system for non active cars, it will come with the rear valance and the mufflers are made by Borla.. I have active exhaust and installed the FP kit that came with the dark horse rear valance. Very happy with the sound with the steeda H pipe. I got it on sale and turned out to be around the same price as the Borla axel back.

https://www.americanmuscle.com/ford...back-darkhorse-rear-valance-m-5230-m5ebv.html

Thanks for the info! If I do end up doing the springs it will be something that's a minimal ride height adjustment like you mentioned, the FP's are around 1 inch I believe also, ill have to check out the BMR's. The hardest part will be finding a shop I can trust, not many of those around me.

As for the exhaust, I'm not too against the single tips; they're less expensive and would also be less to replace if I kept the valance the same. My only reasoning against the FP exhausts is the price. Man, they're expensive. Preferably, I'd like to shoot for 1k or less. Maybe just do a Borla axle back for now and do an H pipe later, not sure though.

 

[LouG]

If you can find an alignment shop that does track set ups as well as street, and has good reviews, that's the way to go.
I had my modded MX5 set up with custom specs by one and it transformed the handling.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

I don't mean to scare you off from lowering. Plenty of people do with no issues. Unfortunately I had nothing but problems from a bad initial install. Camber plates installed incorrectly. Had to have everything re-done. Then had squeaking issues that never went away (probably from damaged camber plates). And 3 alignments (2 poor ones) mixed in there to get it all corrected. Plus no one would work on my car without the excuse that it was lowered with aftermarket parts whenever something wasn't right. All on a brand new beautiful car. It cost me a ton of money and got it my head that ultimately cost me some enjoyment of the car.

So unless you are doing it for handling purposes, I just don't think it's worth messing with on a brand new car. Especially if you are only looking for a half inch drop. But that's my biased opinion.

As for exhaust, I would try an H pipe to start with and see how you like it. If it's not to your liking, then maybe look into axle backs. There are also aftermarket active exhaust systems.

 

[A.alansari]

because of all the problems other people told you about you can get a chin splitter + sides and add 20" wheels without lowering the car but it will feel like its lowered because of these parts

you will need these tires size to close the gap

front 275 35 r20
back 305/ 315 35 r20

 

[Emu]

I don't mean to scare you off from lowering. Plenty of people do with no issues. Unfortunately I had nothing but problems from a bad initial install. Camber plates installed incorrectly. Had to have everything re-done. Then had squeaking issues that never went away (probably from damaged camber plates). And 3 alignments (2 poor ones) mixed in there to get it all corrected. Plus no one would work on my car without the excuse that it was lowered with aftermarket parts whenever something wasn't right. All on a brand new beautiful car. It cost me a ton of money and got it my head that ultimately cost me some enjoyment of the car.

So unless you are doing it for handling purposes, I just don't think it's worth messing with on a brand new car. Especially if you are only looking for a half inch drop. But that's my biased opinion.

As for exhaust, I would try an H pipe to start with and see how you like it. If it's not to your liking, then maybe look into axle backs. There are also aftermarket active exhaust systems.

You're probably right, my last car I drove with squeaking/rattle for 7 years because of a lot of suspension issues. I'll likely keep it the way it is for a while and enjoy not having to worry about any of those issues. As for the exhaust it seems like there are plenty of options, ill just have to eventually pick something and try it. Thanks for the advice!

 

[Emu]

because of all the problems other people told you about you can get a chin splitter + sides and add 20" wheels without lowering the car but it will feel like its lowered because of these parts

you will need these tires size to close the gap

front 275 35 r20
back 305/ 315 35 r20

Thats good advice, If I didn't like the PP wheels that came on the car as much as I do id go for that and maybe will go that route in the future instead of changing anything suspension wise. Much easier to do wheels and tires. And 315's would look pretty awesome from the rear lol.

 

[LouG]

Having already scraped the front splitter on kerbs, I don't think I'll be lowering it.
But I might look at different or progressive rate springs. Or different shocks.

 

[Q6543]

Steeda progressive …. Not too low… drives like a dream, I’m in Michigan and we’re known for terrible roads

 

[Steve@Lethal]

ll end up with going for either of these, eibach, FP. But I'm not sure if the performance package causes any issues, or if there is

You will not need need shocks or struts unless you really want to get into handling or drag racing. The FPP or the Eibach or fine for it. Not sure if you have magnaride or not but it can make a difference on brands and limits drops too. I would also take a look at STEEDA for springs. We run them on our shop 24 and they feel and look awesome.

For the exhaust, are you looking to add headers too or just a catback?

 

[Emu]

You will not need need shocks or struts unless you really want to get into handling or drag racing. The FPP or the Eibach or fine for it. Not sure if you have magnaride or not but it can make a difference on brands and limits drops too. I would also take a look at STEEDA for springs. We run them on our shop 24 and they feel and look awesome.

For the exhaust, are you looking to add headers too or just a catback?

Probably just catback for now. Don't want it to be obnoxiously loud. My HOA would be very unhappy with me lol.

Will I need the camber plates if I go with any of the springs? Also no magnaride

 

[Emu]

Steeda progressive …. Not too low… drives like a dream, I’m in Michigan and we’re known for terrible roads

Looks mean, awesome setup. Glad to hear its working well for you!

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