S650 is fast

[Radiant]

some of the best times I've seen at 11.8, and that's because he has 30% ethanol in the tank and expecting the wideband oxygen sensors to adapt the needed AFR, even though these aren't flexfuel equipped vehicles.

Yeah, they like ethanol; anything above E30 the stock injectors and pump won't keep up. Of course once the S650 get unlocked for tuning, that's an easy fix for an E85 conversion (upgrade pump and injectors)

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[Mirtsevperforance70]

Here's a Dragy readout for my previous car. Similar 0-60mph, 60 foot, and quarter mile ET to what you're claiming your mustang can do. This was a BMW M6 with 605rwhp.

I don't need to "believe what I want to believe", I know the limitations of the car we BOTH HAVE. Filters and wide tires aren't gonna make it happen, the Ford SYNC4 readout is simply wrong. It seems everyone is willing to accept that but you You'd need way more power, or way less weight to hit those figures in an S650.

First of all I’m not claiming anything I’m just showing what the car did on drag radials and your M6 is at least

Here's a Dragy readout for my previous car. Similar 0-60mph, 60 foot, and quarter mile ET to what you're claiming your mustang can do. This was a BMW M6 with 605rwhp.

I don't need to "believe what I want to believe", I know the limitations of the car we BOTH HAVE. Filters and wide tires aren't gonna make it happen, the Ford SYNC4 readout is simply wrong. It seems everyone is willing to accept that but you You'd need way more power, or way less weight to hit those figures in an S650.

Im not claming anything I just showed my best run on drag radials and your M6 weighs at least 600 pounds heavier than my car. Those are awesome numbers for a slightly modified BMW M6. Nothing but props to you. Reason I tested my car on the street is because I wanna see real world number not fully prepped surface. I’ve been drag racing at the track and streets for 22 years and I own my shop but that’s not saying anything. “WOW I own an automotive shop no big deal” the reason I did that test was because I had buddies with Gen 2 and Gen 3 mustangs running 11.4-11.8 on draggy, scat packs running consistently 11.50’s on draggy and 2012 ss camaro running 10.7 and a 2020 ss camaro running 11.3 all draggies. I beat every single one except the 2012 ss. So go figure. Maybe there cars had off days and we did 2 did each and 2 roll races each. Against the 2012 SS on a roll it was much closer than from a dig.

 

[Mirtsevperforance70]

For that kind of times the S650 needs at least some +100hp extra. The M3 competition with its extra 100ish HP over the S650 is barely able to produce these numbers (faster 0-60 but 11.5 on the ¼)...

Well first of stock on stock the m3 competition only makes 17 more hp (stock s65o active exhaust is 486) also weighs a bit more not by much, the regular m3 makes less hp and torque, but again I’m on 325 drag radials weight under 3800 pounds, lowered, exhaust, dual k@n cone filters in coldest boxes and running vp octane boost. S650 have tiny gas tanks and the computer will pick up on the higher octane and u for sure feel the difference. On average I run a 98-99 octane in my car. Also whipple 3.0 liter supercharger 7 weeks away, full BMR suspension coming next week, once those are on I’m running low 9’s all day. But if any of u are in northern Cali and wanna see what I post is true that’s what I post pictures cause talk is cheap come out and we can run them. I’m a type of
Person if I would have seen that post that posted with pictures I would have just said awesome great job. Its cool to hate on people running faster lol.

 

[Mirtsevperforance70]

Yeah, they like ethanol; anything above E30 the stock injectors and pump won't keep up. Of course once the S650 get unlocked for tuning, that's an easy fix for an E85 conversion (upgrade pump and injectors)

Honestly e85 is garbage because if u look at the actually label on the pump the people supplying the E-85 is on responsible for E-55 (only 55% ethanol) also let’s say u do actually e85 what the the other 15%? It’s 87 octane. There is a company that sell true e85 and the other 15% is race gas. Plus e-85 does not do go in hot/humid weather it attracts moisture like crack addict for free crack giveaways. Also if u get e85 in a very hot state that’s also humid like down south and if the gas station has any piping issues omg if u have e85 tester u will see mostly water Danrue talked about this. Another is let’s u have multiple cars and u have a built whatever car and it running e85 and tuned for and it sits like 6 weeks and u live in Florida, Georgia, hot/humid places that e85 will turn literally into gel. But good e85 will produce 100-105 octane. Better to run 91 unless u live in a state where u can get 93 octane and add snow performance stage 3 water meth kit and run 50/50 mix first off insane cooling and the methanol will raise your raise octane from 91 to 116 and 93 to 120. Or simply just run vp racing gas 105, 107 and up reason people go e85 is because it’s much cheaper and u can more power than 91 or 93

 

[Mirtsevperforance70]

Here's a Dragy readout for my previous car. Similar 0-60mph, 60 foot, and quarter mile ET to what you're claiming your mustang can do. This was a BMW M6 with 605rwhp.

I don't need to "believe what I want to believe", I know the limitations of the car we BOTH HAVE. Filters and wide tires aren't gonna make it happen, the Ford SYNC4 readout is simply wrong. It seems everyone is willing to accept that but you You'd need way more power, or way less weight to hit those figures in an S650.

I also love looking at the dyno sheet and seeing more torque than HP. Famous words of Mr. Shelby “torque wins races and horsepower sells”

 

[Q6543]

So … no verified dragy post or timeslips…/thread.

 

[Mirtsevperforance70]

So … no verified dragy post or timeslips…/thread.
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Just ordered don’t worry i pull post and when I go Wednesday nights next month at Sonoma California i will post the time slips as well

 

[Mirtsevperforance70]

So … no verified dragy post or timeslips…/thread.

Just ordered one so when I comes I will post those. Let’s says for argument sake the draggy comes in at 11.30 1/4 then what? Are u going to say my draggy is defective? Just curious? Or what if I post a faster time? Luck? Or defective draggy? What would be the excuse then? Just curious what look forward to

 

[Q6543]

Not at all, I’d want to know what drag wheel setup you’re running, what TQ converter you put in, what you did to your exhaust or brakes or tips n trick to make my car faster.

It was my understanding you were claiming basically a stock car with X pipe and a nitto tire.

 

[drive_55_not]

Honestly e85 is garbage because if u look at the actually label on the pump the people supplying the E-85 is on responsible for E-55 (only 55% ethanol) also let’s say u do actually e85 what the the other 15%? It’s 87 octane. There is a company that sell true e85 and the other 15% is race gas. Plus e-85 does not do go in hot/humid weather it attracts moisture like crack addict for free crack giveaways. Also if u get e85 in a very hot state that’s also humid like down south and if the gas station has any piping issues omg if u have e85 tester u will see mostly water Danrue talked about this. Another is let’s u have multiple cars and u have a built whatever car and it running e85 and tuned for and it sits like 6 weeks and u live in Florida, Georgia, hot/humid places that e85 will turn literally into gel. But good e85 will produce 100-105 octane. Better to run 91 unless u live in a state where u can get 93 octane and add snow performance stage 3 water meth kit and run 50/50 mix first off insane cooling and the methanol will raise your raise octane from 91 to 116 and 93 to 120. Or simply just run vp racing gas 105, 107 and up reason people go e85 is because it’s much cheaper and u can more power than 91 or 93

Pretty much everything you posted there is junk science except that last statement about E85 being cheaper and making more power than gas.

I've been running plain ole' Sheetz flex fuel ethanol which is E70 winter / E83 summer for nearly 15yrs in my SC'd 3v and I've never, nor has anyone I know who runs the same swill, had any issues with it turning to gel or sucking gallons of water out of thin air when it sits for weeks.

I ran an E45 blend on my Gen4 Yote and the knock sensors were happier on that blend than on VP MS109. Both blends saw the same timing. 26.5 degrees but the knock sensors were seeing -1 on ethanol while the MS109 stayed zero.

And my Hellcat runs quicker on that same Sheetz flex fuel ethanol than on $25gal VP 109 or any of the canned "Race E85" I tried over the years.



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[Lightningwings]

Curious, does your car have 3.15 rear gears or the 3.55?

 

[Mirtsevperforance70]

Not at all, I’d want to know what drag wheel setup you’re running, what TQ converter you put in, what you did to your exhaust or brakes or tips n trick to make my car faster.

It was my understanding you were claiming basically a stock car with X pipe and a nitto tire.

325/30r19 Nitto nto5s, torque converter is a 10r80 torque for that’s transmission, mbrp resonator delete xpipe, as soon as they come out im putting 2 piece rotors. What gen is your car and is it stick or auto and what mods do u currently have? But when u race always race in Drag mode. I will put u up on some game I’ve been doing this too long lol 22 plus years bro

 

[IceGamer]

Well first of stock on stock the m3 competition only makes 17 more hp (stock s65o active exhaust is 486) also weighs a bit more not by much, the regular m3 makes less hp and torque, but again I’m on 325 drag radials weight under 3800 pounds, lowered, exhaust, dual k@n cone filters in coldest boxes and running vp octane boost. S650 have tiny gas tanks and the computer will pick up on the higher octane and u for sure feel the difference. On average I run a 98-99 octane in my car. Also whipple 3.0 liter supercharger 7 weeks away, full BMR suspension coming next week, once those are on I’m running low 9’s all day. But if any of u are in northern Cali and wanna see what I post is true that’s what I post pictures cause talk is cheap come out and we can run them. I’m a type of
Person if I would have seen that post that posted with pictures I would have just said awesome great job. Its cool to hate on people running faster lol.

"Stock on stock" the M3 competition makes roughly 100hp more WHP than any stock S650. Ford may say it has 486 or 500 (DH) but the reality is that it cannot be measured on any dyno. A regular dyno will display something like 420-450hp and the numbers a regular S650 puts down are exactly in that power range. "Measured at the crank under perfect conditions" is absolute bullshit to me. Put a BMW M3 competition on that same dyno and it will over deliver and will show some 520-550hp. That’s roughly 100hp more than the S650. Marketing says something different but reality doesn't.
Besides, you stated in your original post that you're running 91 octane... Now you're talking about some 98-99 octane... What is it?

I like what you're doing with your car and I highly respect the time and money you put into it. I'm not hating anything here but I'm questioning the numbers. Logic, data and experience are telling me that a straight piped S650 with better tires, 91 octane and NO hp/torque increase is not putting down the numbers you mentioned. Add the fact that SYNC4 is notorious for giving out false numbers and we have a very reasonable explanation of what we have here.

 

[Mirtsevperforance70]

Pretty much everything you posted there is junk science except that last statement about E85 being cheaper and making more power than gas.

I've been running plain ole' Sheetz flex fuel ethanol which is E70 winter / E83 summer for nearly 15yrs in my SC'd 3v and I've never, nor has anyone I know who runs the same swill, had any issues with it turning to gel or sucking gallons of water out of thin air when it sits for weeks.

I ran an E45 blend on my Gen4 Yote and the knock sensors were happier on that blend than on VP MS109. Both blends saw the same timing. 26.5 degrees but the knock sensors were seeing -1 on ethanol while the MS109 stayed zero.

And my Hellcat runs quicker on that same Sheetz flex fuel ethanol than on $25gal VP 109 or any of the canned "Race E85" I tried over the years.



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lol sure whatever u say man 100-105 octane (105 that’s if u get true 85 ethonal content) will NEVER EVER MAKE MORE more than 109 race gas that’s why real racers I’m talking about guys running 6’s and faster don’t run e-85 shit is garbage and if u actually do your research nothing I said was junk science u just too stupid to understand. Keep having fun in your slow ass supercharged 3 valve did u hit 12’s yet in that weak ass 3 valve.

do your research moisture is ethanols worst nightmare even danrue talked about it. One the greatest Mustang tuners out there Alex Flores from lung racing explains it in detail. People that run e85 just can’t afford race gas place and simple. You are noob who thinks they actually know something. I actually worked as lead tech for Shelby American for 10.5 years in Las Vegas. I own my shops like like don’t be mad cause u don’t know shit and u drive slow shit.

 

[Mirtsevperforance70]

"Stock on stock" the M3 competition makes roughly 100hp more WHP than any stock S650. Ford may say it has 486 or 500 (DH) but the reality is that it cannot be measured on any dyno. A regular dyno will display something like 420-450hp and the numbers a regular S650 puts down are exactly in that power range. "Measured at the crank under perfect conditions" is absolute bullshit to me. Put a BMW M3 competition on that same dyno and it will over deliver and will show some 520-550hp. That’s roughly 100hp more than the S650. Marketing says something different but reality doesn't.
Besides, you stated in your original post that you're running 91 octane... Now you're talking about some 98-99 octane... What is it?

I like what you're doing with your car and I highly respect the time and money you put into it. I'm not hating anything here but I'm questioning the numbers. Logic, data and experience are telling me that a straight piped S650 with better tires, 91 octane and NO hp/torque increase is not putting down the numbers you mentioned. Add the fact that SYNC4 is notorious for giving out false numbers and we have a very reasonable explanation of what we have here.

LMFAO no m3 competition is putting that power on the Dyno unless u change elevation in the Dyno. I run 91 octane and octane boost here and there but without tuning it won’t give full potential of the higher octane. It will help a bit but not as much until it’s tuned. Unfortunately the s650 Ecu’s are locked but vmp is the closet unlocked the ECU. Then it’s game over.

To answer your question first of all the resonator delete x pipe is lighter and flows better, dual k@n drop in cone filters flow double the cfm of the stock ford cone filter and 325 drag radials hella yeah will help because I don’t spin off the line it’s launches hard because the tires are super sticky.

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