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"Hands on the Wheel" Alert 🤬

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There are 2 consequences to “ignoring” this spurious alert I’m aware of, but there may be more

1) you get the ubiquitous keep hands on wheel dash alert
2) Later, you get a FULL VOLUME chime and warning to keep your hands on the wheel. This interrupts music / radio.

I got this sequence on a 2.5 mile straightaway after a s/w update.
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There are 2 consequences to “ignoring” this spurious alert I’m aware of, but there may be more

1) you get the ubiquitous keep hands on wheel dash alert
2) Later, you get a FULL VOLUME chime and warning to keep your hands on the wheel. This interrupts music / radio.

I got this sequence on a 2.5 mile straightaway after a s/w update.

This guy found a hack to disable it and drive like a Tesla.
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Mustang doesn't have full BlueCruise, so it'll not work like that.
 

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That's the first instance of BlueCruise (assisted) then later evolved in the autonomous driving (Mach-E in example). It's not only capable of "lane centering" (like ours) but following the road, including the intersections and such. In that scenario he just simulated the "hands on wheel", that coincidentally it's different than ours: we use a torque sensor not a pressure sensor, if you don't (literally) move the wheel by applying force, the alert will pop up (that is actually our main issue).
 


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That's the first instance of BlueCruise (assisted) then later evolved in the autonomous driving (Mach-E in example). It's not only capable of "lane centering" (like ours) but following the road, including the intersections and such. In that scenario he just simulated the "hands on wheel", that coincidentally it's different than ours: we use a torque sensor not a pressure sensor, if you don't (literally) move the wheel by applying force, the alert will pop up (that is actually our main issue).
In his video it's also a torque sensor. He said he placed an armband with a little bit of weight to get the steering wheel moving just a little bit, so that the warning doesn't pop up. The armband is not there to apply pressure to simulate a hand that is grabbing the wheel.
 

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I thought it was the thing used on Teslas.
Haha no he just improvised to make the wheel think the hand is moving the wheel.

But yeah, I guess the hands on wheel warning is way more complicated then just turning it on or off. It could be written in small bits we can't change, since it's part of a larger byte. So turning it on and off would only be possible when disabling the whole system, which we already can do with the button on the steering wheel.

We only might change duration of when the warning pops up since it's on C and we can go all the way to F.

So we still need to find somebody who wants to try A, B, D, E, F and 0 out.
 

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Start and Stop, speeding, lane keeping, and the most annoying of all: the "Hands on the wheel" alert.

All these alerts drive me crazy. Even though some can be turned off at each startup, the most irritating one remains the "Hands on the wheel" alert, because it's always there.
Is there a way to disable it? ForScan or other tools... Do the US versions also have this alert? 🤯

Despite the negatives, on the highway, the lane keeping with adaptive cruise control is great. The car steers by itself, and it’s quite impressive.😎
Its normal for for lane keeping. My wife's new Hyundai is waaay worse than the S650s hands on the wheel lane keeping alert. Ours are less intrusive and more forgiving.

If you don't like it, just switch off lane keeping. Or you can of course just keep both hands on the wheel Captain Ron. 😉
 

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Or you can of course just keep both hands on the wheel Captain Ron. 😉
Doesn't work.. you need to MOVE your wheel... even if it's a straight road. 🤭 But the analogy makes sense, it's like in those films where the captain moves the wheel left-right continously.
 

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Doesn't work.. you need to MOVE your wheel... even if it's a straight road. 🤭 But the analogy makes sense, it's like in those films where the captain moves the wheel left-right continously.
I have not had that issue.

Also many of you are using lane assist and lane keeping interchangeably. They are 2 different functions.
 

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I have not had that issue.

Also many of you are using lane assist and lane keeping interchangeably. They are 2 different functions.
I guess you are confusing stuff.

You have lane keeping assist and you have lane centering assist.

You mentioned lane assist and lane keeping assist.
 

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We DO WANT lane assistant and lane lane centering both working (because they work awesome honestly), but we want the "keep hands on wheel" fixed (or disabled), because it doesn't work properly. This is what we want. ;)
 

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We DO WANT lane assistant and lane lane centering both working (because they work awesome honestly), but we want the "keep hands on wheel" fixed (or disabled), because it doesn't work properly. This is what we want. ;)
If you want to keep all functions than you have to move your hands.

Sorry, I wrote this on purpose, because that's how this thread goes all the time here, very simple thinking HAHAHAH!!
 

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It's not only this thread.. it's the same by 3 of them in recent months, after multiple pages, and we end out of topic each time.
Now I'm waiting for the one mentioning the fact that if you enable those functions you are not good enough to drive a 500hp car. 🤭
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