Should I be frustrated or am I wrong?

[akawease]

I took my 2024 Mustang GT Premium to the dealership just after 1000 miles (maybe a little more) and had an oil change. The break-in miles were done and I wanted an oil change. That's all I asked them to do and they did. I just went back for another oil change around 5,400 miles so they could rotate my tires too. I picked up my car and was told all was good. When I got home I noticed the receipt said they did not rotate the tires because the wheels are staggered. I guess I should have looked at the receipt when I was there, but I didn't. While I know that the tires are staggered, can't they just do it side to side? I don't believe the stock Pirelli tires on my car are directional as I don't see any arrows indicating that on the tires. Any opinions would be helpful before I go back to the dealership to complain.

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[DannyJ7]

I took my 2024 Mustang GT Premium to the dealership just after 1000 miles (maybe a little more) and had an oil change. The break-in miles were done and I wanted an oil change. That's all I asked them to do and they did. I just went back for another oil change around 5,400 miles so they could rotate my tires too. I picked up my car and was told all was good. When I got home I noticed the receipt said they did not rotate the tires because the wheels are staggered. I guess I should have looked at the receipt when I was there, but I didn't. While I know that the tires are staggered, can't they just do it side to side? I don't believe the stock Pirelli tires on my car are directional as I don't see any arrows indicating that on the tires. Any opinions would be helpful before I go back to the dealership to complain.

With staggered tires, swapping wouldn't do much. Unless you're on a Nascar circuit...

 

[akawease]

With staggered tires, swapping wouldn't do much. Unless you're on a Nascar circuit...

I appreciate that. I always thought rotation was they key...even if just side to side.

 

[smurfslayer]

It can help if you’re trying eke out miles on your tires, but not sure how much on this car.

 

[MAT1955]

@akawease ..... you'll be okay. In your case, IMO, having the tires properly balanced and aligned would be my biggest concern.

 

[Q6543]

Rotating tires was never really a thing. They just came up with a service to trick people out of their money, like getting fluoride treatment at the dentist, or airing them up with nitrogen

 

[Gregs24]

I appreciate that. I always thought rotation was they key...even if just side to side.

It isn't rotation if it is side to side!

Absolutely no point swapping side to side. In the UK you might swap your fronts side to side as we have loads of roundabouts which wear the front left tyre faster than the front right but even that really isn't worth it as the difference is very small.

 

[Ryunker]

Rotating tires was never really a thing. They just came up with a service to trick people out of their money, like getting fluoride treatment at the dentist, or airing them up with nitrogen

This is 100% wrong, please disregard. Rotating tires prolongs life a ton.

 

[Skye]

I don't believe the stock Pirelli tires on my car are directional as I don't see any arrows indicating that on the tires.

I'm not familiar with the Pirellis. Some brands continue to use arrows. Others, if directional, will have the words "inside" or "outside" somewhere along the sidewall, the "outside" being street-side.

If a staggered setup, moving from side-to-side would provide zero benefit. In your situation, I'd do what others with staggered setups do: leave them where they are at.

While the tires cannot be rotated, the mechanics could be asked to re-torque the lugs. Using a torque wrench, not an impact gun set to the highest setting. And, confirm air pressures.

It would be a good practice to check the tread depth every so often with a gauge, all tires, to confirm they are wearing as expected. I check mine once a quarter with a Milton tread depth gauge.

 

[Gregs24]

This is 100% wrong, please disregard. Rotating tires prolongs life a ton.

It might equalise life over the 4 tyres, meaning replacing 4 at once rather than 2 at a time, but not really extending life per se. On old crossply tyres with crappy suspension yes, but modern cars - not really.

 

[Zig]

It might equalise life over the 4 tyres, meaning replacing 4 at once rather than 2 at a time, but not really extending life per se. On old crossply tyres with crappy suspension yes, but modern cars - not really.

All well and good until one gets a flat.

 

[Alan Applegate]

Let's don't get too off base. Rotating was done in the old days (and still is) to even out tire wear. These days, with a lot of vehicles having limited slip technology, uneven rear tire wear isn't an issue. Newer suspensions with virtually no toe in or camber does the same for front tires.

We also need to remember that performance vehicles often have both staggered sizes and unidirectional designs. These 'features' make rotating impossible. They also add to the cost of ownership. Imagine having a Dark Horse with a Whipple, and then bitch about tire wear!

 

[CEShaw]

Because you have the performance package, your rear tires are a size larger than the front tires (Staggered sizes) which is why they don't move front to back and back to front.

 

[erocker]

Rotating tires was never really a thing. They just came up with a service to trick people out of their money, like getting fluoride treatment at the dentist, or airing them up with nitrogen

Sorry but that's just false and a bit crazy, conspiratorial.

 

[CWizard]

You're lucky. My dealer tried to rotate mine. I was able to stop them before they tried to force fit the rears to the front. Apparently they never heard of staggered tires.

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