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Yeah, it's pretty stupid that everything for the S650 is so much more, air filter , oil separator, etc
Fewer S650 owners = fewer customers to spread out the cost of R&D over. Not really difficult to comprehend.
 

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Nothing changed. Any tune will be for 24-25+ s650 platform
I’m not so sure about that, I think the 24 is single rolling encryption and the 25 is a dual encryption.

it may very well be just for 24s
 

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I’m not so sure about that, I think the 24 is single rolling encryption and the 25 is a dual encryption.

it may very well be just for 24s
Did not know that. Ford Performance would have all encryptions though
 


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I'd be happy to just get 30 plus whp out of it. It's quick in stock form but definitely not fast.
Yeah, I mean but why? Cause for me 20 or 30 whp don't make any difference when I already have 400+

I had a car that had 75hp and I tuned it to 105hp. 30hp bump. That was a good noticable gain. But for a car that already has 400+??
 

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Again, the A10 guys will probably see the most on the street. There should also be changes to throttle activation and driving modes. Personally I'll take more torque below 4k, than more hp at redline. More noticeable on the street.
 

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Yeah, I mean but why? Cause for me 20 or 30 whp don't make any difference when I already have 400+

I had a car that had 75hp and I tuned it to 105hp. 30hp bump. That was a good noticable gain. But for a car that already has 400+??
It’s also about throttle response and torque in the mid-rpm’s not just hp at 7000rpms
I just installed h-pipe, high flow filters and removed traps yesterday… ton of HP gain, probably not but can I feel a difference in how it drives, absolutely yes
 

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It’s also about throttle response and torque in the mid-rpm’s not just hp at 7000rpms
I just installed h-pipe, high flow filters and removed traps yesterday… ton of ho gain, probably not but can I feel a difference in how it drives, absolutely yes
The H pipe changes the sound. It will give you a very small unnoticable gain.
Carbon traps are maybe 1hp gain. No evidence that they gain more. Even when you dyno your car and don't change anything it will give you different results, so the carbon traps are nothing special.

All mods you did including the more agressive sound change and with in mind that the other small mods will give you HP gain, makes your brain think you can feel the difference. It's a placebo effect.
 

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Yeah, I mean but why? Cause for me 20 or 30 whp don't make any difference when I already have 400+

I had a car that had 75hp and I tuned it to 105hp. 30hp bump. That was a good noticable gain. But for a car that already has 400+??
Because I want to feel more power. The car doesn't feel fast enough when you stomp on the gas. 400 plus horsepower in these heavy cars isn't that much.
 

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The H pipe changes the sound. It will give you a very small unnoticable gain.
Carbon traps are maybe 1hp gain. No evidence that they gain more. Even when you dyno your car and don't change anything it will give you different results, so the carbon traps are nothing special.

All mods you did including the more agressive sound change and with in mind that the other small mods will give you HP gain, makes your brain think you can feel the difference. It's a placebo effect.
Multiple videos of dyno results showing gains from trap removal, 10-12hp is likely.
Couple from h-pipe and high flows.
10lbs weight difference on h-pipe as well.
But I do agree with Placebo effect.. works for me! lol
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