Wtf is Jaguar doing?

[DarkMatterGrey]

IDK, maybe go back to the basics. Offer a 6 or 12 cylinder manual transmission sport/touring enclosed coupe or drop top car with a real wood dash embracing some retro Smiths gauges. Have an exhaust that goes from purr to roar. Old is new again. Not here for quickest 0-60, just that traditional visceral experience. Got that with the V8 Mustang. So few offerings nowadays.

So, if I COULD buy a yellow sledgehammer, my question is SHOULD I break a MOULD? WOULD you?

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[Gregs24]

IDK, maybe go back to the basics. Offer a 6 or 12 cylinder manual transmission sport/touring enclosed coupe or drop top car with a real wood dash embracing some retro Smiths gauges. Have an exhaust that goes from purr to roar. Old is new again. Not here for quickest 0-60, just that traditional visceral experience. Got that with the V8 Mustang. So few offerings nowadays.

Absolutely no chance - they don't have a V12 and certainly nobody is developing anything like that now other than for extreme niche products. They have a supercharged V8 but they were all dropped from Jaguar's a while ago.

There is no future in retro (no pun intended) other than for old people and Jaguar was always seen as on old man's brand anyway, which is exactly what they are trying to get away from. They will be the EV brand within JLR with Land Rover / Range Rover being the more mass market hybrid brand.

The first new car of the new regime will be a coupe, revealed next month.

 

[keithwalton]

The Uk gov’ is significantly funding their transition to ev’s in terms of tax breaks and other cold hard cash.
Also this side of the pond new car sales of ice vehicles are heavily taxed and are about to get much worse. They’re attempting to price ice off the market.

the push for everything electric in the uk is a mistake (non heat pump heading may soon be taxed extra) as the infrastructure is already creaking badly that we’re being incentivised to load balance the grid

 

[Gregs24]

Actually the grid is fine. UK electricity consumption has fallen significantly over the last 15 years or so.

 

[Radiant]

So, if I COULD buy a yellow sledgehammer

The irony of their "original" design is that half the sledgehammers at Home Depot already have yellow fiberglass handles. It's Stanley's brand color, and the generic brands use yellow in their handles. Stanley sells black handle versions under the "Husky" brand at H-D.

 

[keithwalton]

Actually the grid is fine. UK electricity consumption has fallen significantly over the last 15 years or so.

Production is also down as well, but it's the grid infrastructure itself that is starting to struggle and home customers are being asked to pay for the upgrades in terms of tariffs on bills to massively increase the number of overhead lines.
There is a reason why we have so many smart meter adverts these days and that they've shifted the tone to use energy when it's cheaper / off peak.

However if you operated a bus fleet, or even a HGV depot etc and you've been incentivised to upgrade your fleet to electric, if you wanted to put vehicle charging into your depot it depends on location but the average wait time now is over 2 years to get hooked up to the grid at a practical capacity.

 

[Zig]

No idea where your figures come from as you don't provide any evidence, but it doesn't stack up with other sources on the subject. Remember, of that '850 trillion tonnes' you quote (the non fossil fuel burning bit) is part of a carbon cycle so if there was no human activity the atmospheric CO2 would remain largely stable with slow changes as happened prior to industrialisation.

Overview of Greenhouse Gases | US EPA

The Atmosphere: Getting a Handle on Carbon Dioxide - NASA Science

The concentration of carbon dioxide in Earth’s atmosphere is currently at nearly 412 parts per million (ppm) and rising. This represents a 47 percent increase since the beginning of the Industrial Age, when the concentration was near 280 ppm, and an 11 percent increase since 2000, when it was near 370 ppm. Crisp points out that scientists know the increases in carbon dioxide are caused primarily by human activities because carbon produced by burning fossil fuels has a different ratio of heavy-to-light carbon atoms, so it leaves a distinct “fingerprint” that instruments can measure. A relative decline in the amount of heavy carbon-13 isotopes in the atmosphere points to fossil fuel sources

Oh ok: “"This is the earliest large-scale Archaic fish-trapping facility recorded in ancient Mesoamerica," the study authors wrote in Science Advances, adding that "such landscape-scale intensification may have been a response to long-term climate disturbance recorded between 2200 and 1900 BCE."

 

[DeluxeStang]

QUOTE="Gregs24, post: 3319721, member: 36781"]
Absolutely no chance - they don't have a V12 and certainly nobody is developing anything like that now other than for extreme niche products. They have a supercharged V8 but they were all dropped from Jaguar's a while ago.

There is no future in retro (no pun intended) other than for old people and Jaguar was always seen as on old man's brand anyway, which is exactly what they are trying to get away from. They will be the EV brand within JLR with Land Rover / Range Rover being the more mass market hybrid brand.

The first new car of the new regime will be a coupe, revealed next month.
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I'd argue there will always be a future for retro differentiated products, particularly if those retro designs are well executed, and no-one does retro design than Ford. The most recent Ford GT was a very futuristic design, but still had clear throwbacks to the gt40, the s650 is a modern interpretation of the '67 fastback, especially in the rear, that sharply angled decklid between the taillights is '67 mustang all day long, just modernized.

I want Ford to lean even harder in that direction. Make the next mustang even more sexy, something with the character lines and proportions of a '67 fastback with the exotic surfacing of an Aston martin, and Ford gt inspired details would be glorious.

 

[Zig]

If only:

 

[9secondko]

Actually the grid is fine. UK electricity consumption has fallen significantly over the last 15 years or so.

Not in the USA. It’s a bit of a mess. In some cases, it’s a deadly issue.

 

[DeluxeStang]

If only:

They kinda did a modern version of that with the Vision GT concept. I'd love to see a production version of this if we're trying to do the whole high style, high price approach.

 

[Gregs24]

Production is also down as well, but it's the grid infrastructure itself that is starting to struggle and home customers are being asked to pay for the upgrades in terms of tariffs on bills to massively increase the number of overhead lines.
There is a reason why we have so many smart meter adverts these days and that they've shifted the tone to use energy when it's cheaper / off peak.

However if you operated a bus fleet, or even a HGV depot etc and you've been incentivised to upgrade your fleet to electric, if you wanted to put vehicle charging into your depot it depends on location but the average wait time now is over 2 years to get hooked up to the grid at a practical capacity.

Well production falls when demand falls of course. The fall has been substantial.

Indeed there will always be a need for infrastructure changes and improvements but that has been the case since Edison. My son has a new build house and it is all wired up for solar panels and car charger etc.

 

[BreadBurner]

Buy a Jag and get more vertical miles than horizontal. Been that way for along time. Many of my friends found out the hard way.

what are vertical and horizontal miles?

 

[dusman59]

Vertical miles are when you put a car up on a lift. Horizontal miles are normal driving miles.

 

[9secondko]

As predicted, Jag stock is doing the bud light thing. LOL

Hopefully they wake up quick.

the jag boss is pretending it’s due to intolerance rather than jaguar forgetting how to brand a once glorious vehicle company.

Sadly, it seems jaguar is committed to becoming a joke.

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