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For track purposes, you have to assume everything including the powertrain is a consumable. I think the G87 M2 is a faster car with the same tires, but the running costs are definitely something you have to factor in when tracking. The catastrophic repair costs for the Mustang will be...

Just have to wait another year or two and see if production ramps up.

How things change in a year or two… https://www.sheehyfordgaithersburg.com/new-vehicles/ They’re offering anywhere from $1000 to $3500 off a DH.

BMW ICE powertrains are complicated enough... I don't need to add a hybrid component to it for additional complexity.

It's this. But some of my local dealers are beginning to discount Dark Horses: https://www.sheehyfordgaithersburg.com/new-vehicles/?_dFR[make][0]=Ford&_dFR[model][0]=Mustang&_dFR[trim][0]=Dark%20Horse&_dFR[type][0]=New&_dFR[year][0]=2025 The challenge is that 2025 G87 M2s are being sold for...

https://www.sheehyfordgaithersburg.com/new-vehicles/?_dFR[make][0]=Ford&_dFR[model][0]=Mustang&_dFR[trim][0]=Dark%20Horse&_dFR[type][0]=New&_dFR[year][0]=2025 Seems like 2025 Dark Horses are beginning to get discounted. Wonder what the end of 2025 or 2026 will hold for the DHs. Even 2025 G87...

Lower the price.

What about a C8 Stingray Z51 versus a Mustang DH?

But the problem is you can, arguably, get a better car for the same price as some Mustang trims…

They adjust the "basket of goods" so you could be comparing apples to oranges at different points in time. There's nothing wrong with being catastrophic. Sometimes you have to give people what they voted for.

So how do you achieve a long run average of 2% inflation if inflation is always greater than 2%? Seems to me that if you want to target a long run inflation of 2% and you have a significant spike of inflation in one year, you would have to target 0-1% inflation for a decade plus in order to...

From a dig yes, but that advantage goes away in a roll race to higher speeds like 150mph+ which is more applicable on a road course track - coming out of a sweeper at 50-80mph and hitting 160+mph on a straight before entering your braking zone.

Assuming Ford is not production/supply constrained, do you think Ford would be able to sell as many Mustang DHs as Chevy C8s to the general public at the current price points? Corvette sales are almost the same as ICE Mustang sales (to include all Mustang trims) at the moment...

That sounds like a Ford problem unless they want to keep increasing prices and watch their volume get closer to zero. They need to be able to undercut the BMW G87 M2 so they need to be in the 50-60k price range on their DH. They're not able to really compete with GM's C8 in the 70-80k price...

The prices are too high. Needs to be about 35% less.

$64,000 also buys a brand new 2025 C8 1LT with no options. MSRP is $69,995 but aren't the big Corvette dealers doing a 10-13% discount?

A 50% reduction in their MSRPs should resolve some of the sales problems. Basically a BOGO deal.

Well, Q4 might just be an anomaly for the EV market because the threat of EV incentives going away might have pulled forward some future demand. I think the most impressive manufacturer as far as retail sales, profit margins, days supply, etc. is definitely Toyota. Lexus has exceeded their...

How well did that work out for Stellantis? The finite number of buyers only gets smaller as you go upmarket.

https://www.motor1.com/news/746180/ford-mustang-worst-sales-year-ever/ Keep raising the price - seems like it's working out.