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lol why is that? Trump maybe introduces 20 or 25 % tariffs, but that applies for all IMPORTS - which means to car manufacturers who are selling the cars to the states, not the other way around. And besides, we are talking about a tuning modficiation, which probably will be a software and if it will distributed to Ford Europe as well, they have it in their system applied automatically.
Ford Europe will not get this tune
 

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Ford stopped to sell the tunes via Ford Performance to Europe at around 2019. I doubt they would start with it again, due to the specific (and much more restrictive) regulations in the continent.
If you think that by just changing the HPs of a vehicle (it doesn't matter if it's just +1 or +100) you need to have the vehicle to pass the approval again (including the emissions), a new certification has to be issued, you need to update your car insurance, you need to pay for the additional HPs taxes, and God knows what else.. what they sell today, it's just some hardware (ie: exhaust) and for some of them they specify it is for track use only (your car will be "illegal" on the public roads).
I guess they said, f* this and abandoned the market (as they did in California, to remain the US).
 

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Ford stopped to sell the tunes via Ford Performance to Europe at around 2019. I doubt they would start with it again, due to the specific (and much more restrictive) regulations in the continent.
If you think that by just changing the HPs of a vehicle (it doesn't matter if it's just +1 or +100) you need to have the vehicle to pass the approval again (including the emissions), a new certification has to be issued, you need to update your car insurance, you need to pay for the additional HPs taxes, and God knows what else.. what they sell today, it's just some hardware (ie: exhaust) and for some of them they specify it is for track use only (your car will be "illegal" on the public roads).
I guess they said, f* this and abandoned the market (as they did in California, to remain the US).
I don't think you have to pax extra taxes or need the car through an approval process if the tuning is just a software update.

For hardware it could get tricky, but many tuners did software updates on the S550 and they were street legal and there were no issues whatsoever.

We also have Steeda in Germany, who I think are currently the only official partner for Ford and they can add up to 18.84 PS and upto 23.04 ft-lb torque by a typhoon cold air intake system.

But it is a pity that Ford Performance in Europe doesn't get anything anymore from the US....
 

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I don't know about other countries, but in Italy and Spain (where I'm born / where I live) you deffo cannot increase the performances without having the vehicle to pass the registration again.
This also includes the software, in fact you can actually DECREASE the power via software limitation, register it with this power, (like selling a 500HP car limited to 200HP), pay less (a way less in Italy).. this is legit, but many ppl then "unlock" it back, driving a 500HP car but paying for 200HP, except that it is illegal.. they rarely check, but if they do, you gonna say goodbye to your car.
There's also implication about the insurance: if you crash and they'll find you that you modified your car, they could refuse to pay (or other worst implication if there's injures or dead ppl).
So yes, anything that is going to increase to modify the car specs that are written on the car documentation, needs to have the vehicle passing the inspection and redo the papers.
EU is not US, unfortunately.
 


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Hopefully we never are either....
 

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Here in The Netherlands, the only moment where the car can be taxed based on emissions is when registering it.

We only have taxes based on emissions, not the power. But more power is most likely more emission.

After registering the car and paying the tax you can modify the vehicle. But when you modify it you have to do the inspection again, and also notify your insurance.

Failing this will lead to voiding your insurance after an accident.
 

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Exactly, that's what I said. After you modify part of your car that are under regulation (and the engine and performance are part of it), you need to redo you papers, otherwise you could have troubles. This is the reason of why Ford have probably decided to not offer this kind of "updates" anymore in Europe, the laws are too restrictive and what you need to do to make em "legal", aren't worth it.
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