You can thank Chevy for the next bump in horsepower on your future DH, Shelby, Boss Etc

[9secondko]

Quick tangent: Is there a point where higher horsepower becomes an issue for daily driving? To the point where the accelerator becomes too sensitive to throttle input and you're trying not to get whiplash from standstill?

Depends on tire dimensions and compound as well as weight distribution.

big horsepower is an issue in front engine, rear wheel drive cars. Anything over 600 is pretty difficult to use in an efficient manner.
However, midengine cars gain significant traction with the weight over the drive wheels and the weight removed from the front. The zr1 may have it a little better since its torque doesn’t really come on until 3k rpm’s via the FPC design. The GTD will have a harder time maintaining traction under heavy load due to the front engine design. That said, it may surprise us with the suspension and tire setup with how well it puts the power to the ground.

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[9secondko]

Yep. Just watched the reveal video with Tadge where he really dug in on this was all done in-house. Ford Performance has got to step up their game. The GTD is Mustang in name only.

ford had to do what they had to do I guess, but it really makes one long for the resurrection of SVT.

 

[OppoLock]

Quick tangent: Is there a point where higher horsepower becomes an issue for daily driving? To the point where the accelerator becomes too sensitive to throttle input and you're trying not to get whiplash from standstill?

Electronic throttle maps have made high up cars extremely manageable. If these things still had cable throttles they’d be SOBs to manage around town, but instead they can choose to dampen your inputs and require more overall throttle pedal actuation for a respective amount of actual throttle opening.

Manufacturers do the opposite for their cheap low powered cars: make them touchy and go WOT when you’re barely 20% into pedal travel, to make it seem like they’re more powerful than they are.

 

[DeluxeStang]

Its more attainable then the GTD which is not even available for anyone on here I bet. Heck people now days spend 200,000 dollars on cars like it nothing. One limited F350 and Bronco Raptor and you could a have base ZR1. I am not saying everyone has the money but there is more than you think that could afford a ZR1. There is several people on here that have GT500's and other cars also in the same family they could afford a ZR1.

Most people who can afford a zr1 can afford a GTD.

 

[9secondko]

Most people who can afford a zr1 can afford a GTD.

I don’t think that’s true. I’ve been torn between a loaded AMG or M class SUV and Aston Martin for a while. The Aston is just a tad too high.

someone who could responsibly stretch to reach a zr1 won’t necessarily be able to even come close to a GT 350.

when it comes to a 150k difference, that’s a bridge too far for many folks in the market for a 200k vehicle.

And for 150k more, it has better beat the cheaper car.

 

[BreadBurner]

Electronic throttle maps have made high up cars extremely manageable. If these things still had cable throttles they’d be SOBs to manage around town, but instead they can choose to dampen your inputs and require more overall throttle pedal actuation for a respective amount of actual throttle opening.

Manufacturers do the opposite for their cheap low powered cars: make them touchy and go WOT when you’re barely 20% into pedal travel, to make it seem like they’re more powerful than they are.

I can attest to that. My Camry was in the shop due to getting rear-ended, so my rental was a turbo crossover. It seemed way faster with very little input from the accelerator whereas when I sped in my actual car, it took more effort to do so. Granted my vehicle is NA with lower torque output, but with that turbo 3 liter, it shouldn't have felt that fast with such little pedal response. Especially at highway speeds

 

[Coosawjack]

Electronic throttle maps have made high up cars extremely manageable. If these things still had cable throttles they’d be SOBs to manage around town, but instead they can choose to dampen your inputs and require more overall throttle pedal actuation for a respective amount of actual throttle opening.

Manufacturers do the opposite for their cheap low powered cars: make them touchy and go WOT when you’re barely 20% into pedal travel, to make it seem like they’re more powerful than they are.

I have a feeling Ford has tried this since 2014 or before.......all three of my Mustangs had vague throttle responses due to aggressive mapping with ridiculous and inconsistent delays in TB responses so my 6 speed shifts were often pretty crappy!!

Fixed this for good in my 2022 GT vert with a 90MM Soler Performance TB.......this is the way they should come from Ford........IMHO!!

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